Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Colleen Haskell

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The result was keep. Delete comments focus around not meeting WP:NACTOR but there seems to be a consensus of meeting WP:GNG. Seddon ^talk 01:03, 16 October 2021 (UTC) Seddon ^talk 01:03, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Colleen Haskell

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Fails WP:NACTOR. She’s only had one significant role in The Animal. Being a contestant on Survivor doesn’t count as a significant role. The Film Creator (talk) 15:17, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - Multiple sources satisfies WP:GNG. ♟♙ (talk) 23:23, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 22:58, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - falls short of NACTOR, yet to receive SIGCOV.-KH-1 (talk) 04:57, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
~~Delete~~ Being in one critically disdained movie, a few guest appearances on some TV shows, and appearing on a reality TV show do not convince me that she meets WP:NACTOR, which requires significant roles in multiple notable films. The coverage I can find of her consists of listings on IMDB or summaries of show episodes, none of which constitute the significant, independent coverage required to meet WP:GNG. There is also no evidence she comes close to meeting any criteria at WP:ANYBIO. Papaursa (talk) 19:41, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Passes GNG just scrolling through the first 10 pages of google books. Her role on Survivor has had lots of non-routine coverage, such as academic books analyzing Survivor in relation to the field of psychology (see google books). She was also widely cited even years after for being one of the few reality contestants who managed to continue working in the entertainment industry in multiple publications (again see google books). All of this to say, she had a meaningful cultural impact that went beyond what's typical for an entertainer/reality contestant which is played out by multiple independent refs with significant coverage.4meter4 (talk) 19:53, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwaiiplayer (talk) 12:30, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Delete - Very weak claim to WP:NACTOR, I agree with User:KH-1 on this. Gentleman wiki (talk) 20:29, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, there appears to at least be WP:BASIC/WP:GNG notability supported by multiple independent and reliable sources, e.g. Survivor Colleen Has Animal Instincts (ABC News, 2000), Tagi Alliance Kills Off Pagong (CBS News, 2000), Pagong! Now Colleen Is Cast Away (Washington Post, 2000), Colleen heads back to school, clothed (EW, 2000), Playtone plans a ‘Wedding’; Mohr work (Variety, 2000), Colleen Survives Hollywood (CBS News, 2001), The Animal (Variety, 2001), FILM REVIEW; Half Man, Half Beast, But the Guy's All Heart (New York Times, 2001), The Animal (2001) (BBC, 2001), Chat with Colleen Haskell (Baltimore Sun, 2002), The 10 Best Survivor Showmances Of All Time (Screenrant, 2021). WP:ENTERTAINER/WP:NACTOR is not limited to films, and her role in Survivor was significant, as demonstrated by the coverage focused on her role, and she starred in The Animal, which was reviewed in addition to the coverage of her participation, so this notability criteria also appears to have support. Beccaynr (talk) 01:10, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, has received enough coverage for notabilityJackattack1597 (talk) 19:03, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Confused I don't usually get involved in showbiz articles, so maybe I just don't understand why mentions about getting an agent, repeated one or two line mentions about being on Survivor, and cast updates are considered in-depth coverage. In sports AFDs we'd call that routine coverage and ignore them. There's no doubt she's mentioned in a lot of sources (especially industry ones) and appeared on lots of talk shows, but that all stemmed from her being on Survivor and is not what I'd call significant coverage of her. I don't know, maybe the sheer volume of coverage is sufficient to show notability. I'm clearly out of my element. Papaursa (talk) 00:23, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I think the part of WP:BASIC that states, If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability, helps support notability here. For example, the Variety article has two paragraphs about her, including that she was getting an agent, but also other details, such as Bryant Gumbel referring to her as "America's sweetheart" after she left Survivor. Per WP:BASIC, this is more than a trivial mention because Variety added WP:SECONDARY context and commentary. ABC News also offers WP:SECONDARY commentary about her role on Survivor and the news of her role in Animal. The Washington Post offers biographical information about her, as well as WP:SECONDARY commentary and context about her role on Survivor. Entertainment Weekly also offers some biographical information and WP:SECONDARY context about her Survivor role. These seem to be more than WP:ROUTINE/trivial mentions, because they are more than announcements, or reports similar to sports scores. Beccaynr (talk) 01:09, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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