Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Colonel Rick Powell
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The result was Delete Mandsford 01:09, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Not (yet) notable per WP:POLITICIAN--no coverage indicating notability either. Drmies (talk) 03:31, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Also, I assume that his first name is not Colonel, so for consistency, the page should be title Rick Powell (without the Colonel). Also, article violates NPOV, seems there to promote his campaign. Dondegroovily (talk) 04:14, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Right, but don't move it yet--let's not waste too many electrons. Drmies (talk) 04:19, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- If removing the colonel's title would help make this entry copacetic, it's not a problem - the title is legitimate, as is his record. He is a repeat candidate. The incumbent has a similar Wiki, with a history of similar or lesser noteworthiness (Marty Block). The colonel's military record alone should be enough - in my opinion.DangerStick (talk) 04:40, 9 September 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by DangerStick (talk • contribs) — DangerStick (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- But the incumbent is the incumbent, and therefore presumably passes WP:POLITICIAN. Drmies (talk) 15:19, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - does not pass WP:POLITICIAN or the general notability guidelines. Tarc (talk) 13:03, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - I'm not finding much in the way of significant coverage in reliable sources. He fails WP:POLITICIAN as an unelected candidate. Also fails Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Notability_guide#People as a serviceman of rank colonel and not being decorated at the highest levels. Of course no bias against recreating the article if he wins the election. P. D. Cook Talk to me! 13:43, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. -- Jujutacular talk 15:23, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I'm learning, thank you - new to this. I've contacted the colonel, and will secure further background info. He was involved in a host of offensives, and that's not including his operations with Special Forces. As for awards, he's got a pile, including the Bronze Star and Legion of Merit. I'm not sure how to remove "colonel" from the page title, though. Like I said, I'm new. Yes, he is running for an assembly seat, but he's also a noted counter-terror expert on top of his military history. There is plenty to note, including photos and documentation, I'm just not doing a good job of it yet. Please bear with me.DangerStick (talk) 04:18, 10 September 2010 (UTC)DangerStick (talk) 17:22, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for discussing this with us. As far as the medals go, as Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Notability_guide#People indicates, he would need to have been awarded the Medal of Honor or the Silver Star multiple times for his awards to make him "instantly" notable. So we are relying on WP:BIO here, which means he needs to have received significant coverage in multiple reliable sources. So your best bet would be to find newspaper or magazine articles about him, or mentions of him in books. As far as the naming goes, if the article is kept, I or someone else will change it (for future reference, you can change an article name by moving it - notice the "move" tab toward the top of the article). One thing that concerns me a little is that, if you have a close relationship with him (you told us you contacted him and refer to him as "The Colonel"), you may have a conflict of interest. So please understand that guideline. Regards, P. D. Cook Talk to me! 18:17, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete Non-notable candidate for state legislature; has never held office. No news coverage found except a two-paragraph item stating that he won the primary. Unless significant news coverage is found, he fails the standard set at WP:POLITICIAN. --MelanieN (talk) 03:22, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - per nom. Fails WP:POLITICIAN. ----moreno oso (talk) 04:29, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the insight. I only use "the colonel" because I was raised in a military-oriented household and it's comfortable. I have only limited familiarity with Col. Powell, which explains why getting his info has taken this long. I have received several Vietnam-period photos. I'll ask for records of coverage of military service next.DangerStick (talk) 07:01, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm not sure what you mean by "records." If they are some sort of documentation published by the military, then they will suffice to verify the content of the article. However, they won't do anything to demonstrate the notability of the subject. You'll need to find coverage in other types of sources. P. D. Cook Talk to me! 12:57, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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