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Concert march

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“Grove Music Online” is not enough by itself to show notability Chidgk1 (talk) 18:16, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Chidgk1 (talk) 18:16, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I think it should be fairly easy to source. I'll work on improving.4meter4 (talk) 20:18, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I can't really see any sources (other than the passing mention in the already cited Newsom source) describing this as a discrete genre. Yet sources do seem to sometimes describe individual works as concert marches (see [1]). If anything it could be merged into March (music) but there isn't really any quality content to merge. Pinging Gerda Arendt who might be more knowledgable. Vladimir.copic (talk) 23:04, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I see that 4meter4 is already marching - past midnight here, will look again tomorrow, but am sure it will be a completely different article. I think we should even have a matching category. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:12, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Thank you for the rescue, 4meter4! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:47, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep 4meter4 has done a good job locating and adding sources that demonstrate notability. Vladimir.copic (talk) 22:56, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Passes WP:GNG. There's a rather large section on Sousa's impact on the development of an American approach to the concert march in the 1880s/1890s in musicologist Patrick Warfield's biography on the composer. I've incorporated some of that into the article. According to Warfield, there was a clear separation in Sousa's mind about what differentiated the standard march from the concert march in terms of style and dramatic shape. Of course, Sousa's concert marches ended up influencing standard march composition later and then things started to get blurry. I found a snippet view of a journal article which addresses this, and I'm hoping to get a copy so I can incorporate that in. But regardless, I'm pulling from The Heritage Encyclopedia of Band Music to compile a list of composers who composed "concert marches". I've added some other sources as well. It's clearly its own genre because composers of band music will label some of their marches "concert marches" and not use that term when labeling other marches they have composed. You see that routinely in the composition lists in the Heritage Encyclopedia. Here is another source with SIGCOV as well: [2] Best.4meter4 (talk) 02:56, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. I've removed a bunch of unsubstantiated WP:OR. I couldn't find any evidence for some of the claims in the article as it existed at the time of nomination, but I've replaced it with verifiable text cited to WP:RS. The article is now in much better shape. Best.4meter4 (talk) 04:25, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Solid article. Grimes 2 07:08, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]