Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Connection between Poles and Vandals

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete - consensus and OR problems. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 03:41, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Connection between Poles and Vandals

Possible original research, unreferenced. Polish Wikipedia has an equivalent article slighty expanded and with two references, however: there is a note about one reference (from 1947) being considered obsolete and biased by modern historians. The article is also the place of low level revert war ([1]) and honestly, without refs, we can just as well toss coins to chose side to support... _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk} 17:36, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and rewrite. The subject is definitely notable, but could use a major rewrite, with translation from the corresponding Polish Wikipedia article, and addition of references. Michaelas10 (Talk) 17:49, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete original research. There is nothing to rewrite, because the subject is inherently not encyclopaedic. There is no such article in any other encyclopaedia. It's enough to highlight the obsolete believes inside a single passage in the article about Vandals. If we are to dedicate a separate article to all sorts of "connections" between other articles, I don't know where we would end. There are too many unmaintainable pages as it is. --Ghirla ^-трёп- 18:39, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral It's possible a good article could be made out of this. Sarmatism and Gothicismus certainly deserve full treatments, but I'm not sure about this one. It might be best just to merge it with the main Vandal article.--Folantin 18:56, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete this should belong in History of Poland and then forked out if necessary. But WP:OR is not acceptable. Eusebeus 01:18, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I'm not too good on Polish history, but seeing as there's original research, I'm willing to help re-write. Folantin makes a good point. --SunStar Net 01:20, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Piotrus and Ghirla Alex Bakharev 06:30, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and rewrite. The history of Poland is complicated and can be interesting for readers from Central Europe. The article should be rewrite based on Polish version. Superborsuk 01:01, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Piotruś. - Darwinek 11:09, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as per nom. No need to keep badly written articles on historic errors.-- Matthead ^discuß! O 23:55, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep If the people whose histoy it is think its notable, the article belongs.It is not appropriate for us t critize it on the basis of being "wrong", "historic errors," or "badly written"DGG 05:14, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment "Badly written" isn't a criterion for deletion, assuming the problem is not so bad it's beyond redemption. This article is about an historical error; the point is to decide whether it is a notable enough error for inclusion on WP, i.e. did this idea have a major impact on Polish history or culture in the way Sarmatism did. If so, it's worth having an article on this subject, as long as it's made quite clear any connection between Poles and Vandals is probably non-existent. I know something about Polish history, but not enough to decide on this issue. As usual, it could easily be resolved one way or the other if somebody came up with the relevant reputable sources. --Folantin 19:03, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.