Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Crow Foot

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The result was keep. Sandstein 19:53, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Crow Foot

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Fails WP:BASIC and WP:ANYBIO. Unable to locate any significant biographical details in secondary sources. Magnolia677 (talk) 17:53, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Magnolia677 (talk) 17:53, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep The topic should be expanded and disambiguated as, not only was there Sitting Bull's son, but there was also a notable chief of this name. We have him at Crowfoot but some encyclopedias have him as Crow Foot too – The Encyclopedia Of Native American Biography. Such encyclopedias also cover Sitting Bull's son too and so there's no case for deletion. Applicable policies include WP:ATD, WP:NEXIST, WP:NOTPAPER and WP:PRESERVE. Andrew🐉(talk) 18:17, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • We already have Crow Foot (disambiguation). pburka (talk) 18:49, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak keep. There's quite a bit of information about him in Voices of Wounded Knee (2001) pp. 201-211, among other books and scholarly sources. However there might a reasonable one-event argument against keeping. pburka (talk) 18:47, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: as per above. Deep search turns up the photo, and variant spellings. Worth keeping and improving the article. -- Whiteguru (talk) 11:35, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep for reasons cited by User:Whiteguru and user:Andrew Davidson. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 11:33, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per above keepers. And comment: I have quite a few books on hold that should cover Crow Foot; I will improve the article when I have access to the sources. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 15:13, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge with redirect to Sitting Bull - the only thing we know about this person is that he was Sitting Bull's son who died with his father. Both sources brought forward so far are about Sitting Bull, with maybe a paragraph about Crow Foot. Being someone famous's son does not make a subject notable, and the reader will be better served reading what little we know about Crow Foot in an article about his father. BTW, Sitting Bull's son Crow Foot is not the same person as Chief Crowfoot in case there was any confusion. Lev!vich 20:35, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep We have room in the encyclopedia for this person. Sources exist in books. Lightburst (talk) 23:07, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep because of the coverage in Voices of Wounded Knee that pburka posted above. Levivich says that the only coverage is that he's Sitting Bull's son. I can only see snippets, but from those snippets it looks like Crow Foot is discussed in some detail, not simply that he was Sitting Bull's son full stop. — Toughpigs (talk) 00:00, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  Idk how anyone looks at Voices of Wounded Knee and says it has a lot of detail. He is only mentioned on three pages: 201, 202, and 211. This is what it says about Crow Foot: (1) he was a twin, (2) born 1876, (3) shot in 1890 by Lone Man (in the same altercation in which his father was killed). That's it. Sitting Bull: The Life and Times of an American Patriot has more than Voices of Wounded Knee but still very little. And what else is there to say about a 14 year old boy who is only known for having died with his father? How does this even get past WP:A7, nevermind WP:N? Lev!vich 00:17, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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