Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Crowbar (Transformers)
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Courcelles 23:58, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Fictional character that does not appear to have enough significant third-party comment for independent notability. Black Kite (t) (c) 00:17, 3 July 2011 (UTC) Black Kite (t) (c) 00:17, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 01:38, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep or Merge to Characters_in_Transformers:_Dark_of_the_Moon#Decepticonsper WP:BEFORE #5, which should have been done by the nominator of the article. A cast page for the movie he is currently appearing in.Mathewignash (talk) 01:40, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:12, 10 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- delete or merge No independent sources have significant coverage of this particular transformer. It is not notable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HominidMachinae (talk • contribs) 23:36, 10 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - No reliably sourced coverage to support claim of notability. In-world cruft is insufficient. Tarc (talk) 03:01, 11 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep All this article needs are few experts on the subject that are willing to clean it up to Wiki standards. Yapool Seijin (talk) 16:10, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- "Experts on the subject" cannot magically create reliable sources to satisfy notability concerns. Minor toys do not see much coverage outside of product catalogs and fan websites. Tarc (talk) 16:28, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per User:Yapool Seijin. --Transformers Belong Here (talk) 05:36, 13 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete- No sources are provided beyond primary sources and toy catalogues, and I can't find anything more substantial. This is insufficient to satisfy notability concerns. Tarc is right; it is no good to claim some "expert" is going to wave his wand and magically turn this fancrufty article about a trivial fictional character into something resembling an encyclopedia article. Not without proper sources. Reyk YO! 07:44, 13 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: No evidence that the fictional character has been significantly covered as a topic in multiple reliable secondary sources independent of the subject to presume that it is a suitable topic per the general notability guideline. As with other similar articles, it is not a plausible term and the content is barely referenced, so a redirect or a merge are not warranted. Jfgslo (talk) 23:48, 15 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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