Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DataSynapse (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. --Ezeu 23:50, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This and other pages all added by a single user as well as spamming the external links of articles to DataSynapse's website. Delete as spam of products with no reliable sources of information meeting WP:CORP. See the original AFD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DataSynapse. This wasn't speedied as I feel it should be kept intact if the products happen to be kept. Also listing the products:

• FabricServer
• GridServer

Wickethewok 14:28, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as spam. JonHarder 14:37, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom, unless the CEO is a Nobel Laureate who climbed Everest naked while smoking a pipe of course (I haven't checked). Yomangani 14:57, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Hahaha-teehee! Wickethewok 15:08, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as spam, with possible lock to prevent recreation. -- Bovineone 15:04, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete all three articles, per above and since the company fails WP:CORP. Wmahan. 15:55, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep you guys are bulldogs. This is no different than sites by Quest Software, Wily Technologies, Computer Associates, etc. Why do you guys have such a problem with this site? If you have a problem why wouldn't you edit the copy to be less advert oriented? HouKid. 11:51, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete The argument: "but everyone's doing it" didn't work in elementary school, and it doesn't apply here. There is a distinction in that some companies are notable and others are not. (See WP:CORP). This company is no Computer Associates. I think the bully is the one who abuses a not-for profit to get free advertising. --Xrblsnggt 17:47, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom as spam. As Xrblsnggt said the argument "but everyone's doing it" and didn't work in elementary school, it's a non-notable company. --Bigtop 18:50, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep I understand CA being a notable company based in New York, but who makes the call on these other companies in NY with Wikipedia listings: Aeroflex, On2 Technologies, Spectracom, Vector Marketing and Xandros? Are these companies more notable than DataSynapse? Or should these other non-notable companies be also slated for deletion? I'm just trying to understand the fine line keeping these other companies untouched...User:Moonmix

• The "fine line" is at WP:CORP. Assumedly, these other companies meet this guideline. Wickethewok 20:05, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • The "fine line" they are walking seems to be INline with the WP:CORP. An excerpt from the WP:CORP: "A product or service is notable if it meets any one of the following criteria: The product or service has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the company itself."
    • So, I think they are much inline per the various articles I've seen on them.
      • IBM Debuts Grid Using DataSynapse
      • AlwaysOn Recognized DataSynapse for Best Emerging Technology
      • GRIDtoday: Bringing Grid to the Masses
      • Korea: Virtualize the Data Center -- HouKid 16:32, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Press releases are specifically not "non-trivial" published works, which is what at least three of those appear to be. Wickethewok 22:02, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• None are press releases and ALL seemed to be released independent of the company. A press release would announce a product, a partnership, or something of the sort. HouKid 23:32, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• How are these not press releases? The first two links are from websites whose only purpose is press releases (the first website's name even has the word "press" in it!). The fourth website only has an extremely trivial mention of the company (eg. it has the word "DataSynapse" in it). The third article is borderline, as its pretty much another company talking up their product and mentioning DataSynapse, but it certainly does not constitute "multiple non-trivial published works". Wickethewok 04:46, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Have you done your research before responding? Take a look at the following non-trivial, unbiased articles written by other 3rd parties like RedHerring, Waters, and JobServer UK:
  • RedHerring Top 100 Private Companies
  • 2006 Waters Ranking Reader's Choice
  • 2004 Waters Ranking Editor's Choice
  • DataSynapse Listed as useful job skill in the UKShigdon 11:07, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment the preceding remark was actually made by 12.158.31.82 who intially signed it HouKid. Yomangani 16:40, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• re: Comment I have nothing to do with HouKid. Not sure where you are getting that info. Shigdon 11:56, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• re: Comment This change[1] was signed by HouKid, but was later changed [2] to say Shigdon. There may be some sock puppetry going on here. -- Bovineone 17:03, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment 12.158.31.82 resolves to DataSynapse, so these edits are made in self interest. I believe the Informal suffrage rule of thumb which limits the weight of these votes applies here. JonHarder 17:13, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment not sure why someone would try and change usernames, etc. I made my earlier comments based on WP:CORP facts, but someone is trying to sabotage them. My comments stand. Focusing on the real issue of notibility and adverts, with the latest edits Shigdon made to DataSynapse I am fine with keeping the page, but the product pages should be merged. No further comments will be made on this page. HouKid 13:59, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Here are some third party, non-biased articles regarding DataSynapse: From Computerworld magazine, "Wachovia uses grid technology to speed up transaction apps: DataSynapse deployment draws power from pool of 10,000 CPUs": http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9000476 From Wall Street and Technology, " Merrill Lynch Drives Efficiency Through Grid Computing": http://www.wallstreetandtech.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=187203186 Named a JBoss Innovation Award Winner: http://www.jbossworld.com/jbwv_2006/innovation.htm - http://www.jbossworld.com/jbwv_2006/innovation_awards/JBIA_DataSynapse.pdf Just wanted to point these out to show that this company meets the criteria of notable. Thanks, User:Moonmix

• Keep Company is notable. Article needs to be expanded. JohnM4402 20:16, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.