Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Decimal calendar

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Although the consensus is that this should not be kept as a stand-alone article, a clear target has not been agreed upon for a redirect, or whether this should be a dab page. I'm closing this as no concensus, but if discussion continues on the article's talk page, I am happy to help implement the consensual decision PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 03:18, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Decimal calendar

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Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science-related deletion discussions. Cliff Smith 18:07, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Notability - searching for sources brought up little besides original research; article history shows it apparently was created for original research which was deleted, now it just lists three calendars which have a very tenuous relationship with the subject. PROD was contested on the basis that it's "a reasonable dab page", which it is not. Nike (talk) 00:22, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

~~delete~~ 100% original research for this term: never saw Egyptian calendar or romulus calendar were called "decimal". Google shows several modern proposals for decimal calendars, but they don't seem to be notable enough for wikipedia. Staszek Lem (talk) 00:38, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- redirect (changed opinion; redirect is a good alternative, provided that the article "French Republican Calendar" mentions that it was called "decimal". Staszek Lem (talk) 21:21, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to French Republican Calendar. There are multiple reliable sources that describe the calendar adopted by the French during the French Revolution as a "decimal calendar" (The Discoverers (1985, Random House), Time and Shape of History (2007, Yale University Press), Robespierre: A Revolutionary Life (2012, Yale University Press). However, there are no other decimal calendars, so having an article separate from French Republican Calendar would be pointless.--SGCM (talk) 06:07, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Convert to disambiguation. I agree that it is not currently "a reasonable dab page", but it can very easily be converted to one. That seems to be the most useful outcome, rather than deleting the page altogether or redirecting to a single target meaning. --Waldir ^talk 12:25, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The problem is that the Romulus and Egyptian calendars have not been described as decimal calendars by reliable sources. Only the French Revolution calendar has legitimately been labeled as a decimal calendar. A search for "Romulus" and "decimal calendar" on Google books brings up no results.--SGCM (talk) 16:20, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
convert to a dab or keep. This target needs to be kept around at least for navigating to the French Republican and Roman calendars. Van Isaac_WS^contribs 03:22, 29 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Who uses this target to navigate there? A redirect should be sufficient. --Nike (talk) 05:10, 29 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to decimal time would be better than a redirect to French Republican Calendar. Time measurement includes days, months, and years as well as hours and minutes. Redirecting to French Republican Calendar might be confusing for people wanting general information on decimal time schemes (although there are certainly descriptions of the French scheme as a decimal calendar[1]). On the other hand, keeping this article would not the worst thing: there is also a decimal calendar used in some academic/medical contexts developed by J M Tanner[2][3][4]. --Colapeninsula (talk) 16:37, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, there are several recent proposals for decimal calendars. The question is whether they have got any recognition beyond their authors and friends? WP:UNDUE. Staszek Lem (talk) 21:21, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger _{One ping only} 02:09, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Convert to dab—As Colapeninsula says, reliable sources also refer to a "decimal calendar" invented by James Mourilyan Tanner to measure the ages of research subjects, although Tanner himself doesn't seem to have used the phrase in the book they cite it to (I don't have a copy and had to rely on google books snippets to tell me that the phrase "decimal calendar" doesn't appear in the book). This google scholar search ("decimal calendar"+tanner) shows 12 hits (maybe a couple duplicates) where people refer to Tanner's system of measuring age as a "decimal calendar." There is no information on this in Tanner's article, although it seems that there should be. Anyway, this gives at least two reasonable entries for a dab page; the French calendar and this one. A dab page is indicated rather than an article because the French calendar and Tanner's calendar are different kinds of calendars. I think that the scholar search I linked to shows that "decimal calendar" is a plausible search term for at least one thing other than the French revolutionary calendar. I.E. per Colapeninsula's rationale but supporting a different outcome.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 02:52, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Put any two words together and you're likely to get some hits, but is that enough to call it notable? It seems pretty obscure to me. --Nike (talk) 07:13, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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