Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Deep Democracy Institute

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 00:13, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deep Democracy Institute

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This article has been at Wikipedia for years, and although there are many versions of the article in the history, it is always at some level of self-promotion. The sourcing in the current iteration of the article is nonexistent. There seems to be a better, more neutral version of the article at this old diff, but in that version as well, the only sources that seem to be writing about this organization are written by the organization's founder. I looked for reliable independent sources] I could use to clean up this article, and didn't find any. Google books wasn't any more help. If no one outside the organization is writing about it, then there's no independent information from which to write a better article. FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 12:10, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 22:54, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. When I see expressions like "psycho-social-political paradigm" (in Deep Democracy) I know it's going to be hard going. I agree about the coverage, and when I see "You can join our trainings" I think of spam (and not because I'm getting hungry...). I would congratulate FisherQueen on a bit of hard work and digging, by the way, and would hope that the DDI people use a bit more understandable language at their town meetings than that in the text of the DD article. Peridon (talk) 18:58, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Copied from the talk page: Sorry for having been so slow to respond to all of these issues. I created the page initially, which I understand that I shouldn't have done. Others have since picked up an interest in updating the article. I am writing now hoping that it is okay that I add some references here in the deletion discussion. Here are links to some other sites that discuss various things about the Deep Democracy Institute.

http://www.ita2010.com/Max-Schupbach http://eurotas.org/about-us/newsletter/no-60---16-05-2010.html http://www.turningforward.org/associates.html http://www.livingdemocracy.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=52&Itemid=103 http://practicalmysticmusings.wordpress.com/2010/06/15/deep-democracy-conflict-resolution-and-polarity/ http://www.processwork.sk/en/contacts.html http://www.aamindell.net/blog/2010-news http://www.janus.org.br/ http://pacificinstitute.org/deepdemocracy.html http://www.iapop.com/dissertations/hamann-organisational.pdf http://www.processworkaustralia.org.au/community.html http://www.dawnmenken.com/contact.html http://processworkireland.org/resources.shtml http://infolokerterbaru.com/info-deep-democracy-institute--facebook.html http://www.aamindell.net/news-2007.htm http://www.processworklane.com/pocr.htm http://events.linkedin.com/Evolutionary-Leadership-Business/pub/448170 http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/2010/08/26/be-gracious-dont-lose-twice/

Stanfordsiver (talk) 22:07, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

This Deep Democracy Institute page is important in that there is discussion of it in numerous other places, and this is growing. The Institute has a number of projects which is drawing interest in different parts of the world due to the principles of deep democracy, and the impact of the application of those principles to conflict zones. Nick Turner Nickturnerwiki (talk) 08:41, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

The Deep Democracy Institute offers leadership programs around the world. The global reach of this program and related activities open up new and diverse networks and partnerships across sectors and disciplines. This page offers a valuable information source for the diverse entry points, locations and contexts of a growing community of leaders, conflict resolvers and entrepreneurs.

Julia Wolfson, Turning Forward, Australia Julia.wolfson (talk) 21:43, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

   I checked the first three links on that list, and none of them were reliable, independent sources writing in detail about Deep Democracy Institute. Maybe someone could weed out the other links that aren't helpful? The ones you should leave are the ones that are published independently of the organization, and write in detail about its importance- newspaper articles, magazine articles, books by people who aren't in the institute, for example. Just a bunch of links to associate organizations doesn't do anything but make it difficult to find the useful sources. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 22:00, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

After seeing the histories of notices and issues with this article, I wrote the current version with the intention of greater neutrality and description than the previous version. I also followed examples that I saw on other wiki articles. I understand that the wiki editor thinks that the previous version was actually better and I would be happy to change back or to incorporate the best of both but I don’t yet understand completely how to do that in the most neutral way. Hoping to receive thoughts from others and recommendations for improvements to this one or integrating the two.

Also, I see the discussion of the sources and want to add here some independent information about DDI. Some of it is through a DDI URL but opens an article or interview that is sourced elsewhere: I am adding it now to the discussion in hopes that the notice to delete will be removed and also I, and others, will be integrating these sources into the main article soon.

Interview with ShrinkRapRadio

Interview at Ukrainian Business School

Article in Journal of University of Stellenbosch Business School

University of Stellenbosch Business School

article on deep democracy discussing ddi

Deep Democracy, Conflict Resolution and Polarity

Deep Democracy Institute’s New Programs on Arny & Amy Mindell website

Evolutionary Leadership in Business

I know that there are other articles and interviews, which I will track down and add to this list and to the article’s references.

Nickturnerwiki (talk) 15:20, 22 October 2010 (UTC)Nick Turner

I have been a participant for several years in the original Deep Democracy Institute program in the West Bank, Palestine. and i'm doing my Master program in Conflict facilitation and deep democracy because of their effect on me from Palestine. I think this page adds a lot to that program and I know that many of us have read what is here and hope to see more. I know that there are some articles written about their work in Arabic and I will search for online sources and references to add to what is here. I hope that this article continues to grow, as the institute is doing, and feel that is deserves support. Mohammadargh (talk) 17:22, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

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Delete nothing in gnews [1]. LibStar (talk) 06:36, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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