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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 13:45, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Derrick Sims (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)
Minor film-maker, with only minor professional credits. Much name-dropping, few--if any--accomplishments. CalendarWatcher (talk) 06:42, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per WP:BIO. He does not appear to have "got there" yet. I suspect it will be a little while longer. Ohconfucius (talk) 08:08, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:05, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- On 9/17/2008, "The River," a film where Sims was director of photography" was added to the internet movie database. His credit, along with others, are to be added within the coming week. Since there is no previous feature-length DP credit for Sims, it's taken a bit longer to be added. The same goes for the director. However, the film was added today, and that's justifiable reason that the filmmaker, Sims, is a viable filmmaker whose article should remain. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chowningsferry (talk • contribs) 03:34, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- IMDB is a user-built database, so inclusion of anyone or anything is not evidence for notability, not to mention that the listed film is quite obviously a very minor film. --CalendarWatcher (talk) 03:55, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, IMDB is a user build database, but they have strict guidelines and the film must prove its worth of an audience. "The River" was approved by imdb, a much more reliable source than Wikipedia. Follow the rest of the reference links on Sims' list and you can see the growing significance of this filmmaker. Sims is very well known in the Arkansas film industry. His personal films have won three festival awards and War Eagle has taken home over 15 awards around the country. Sims' film "Battle of Marks' Mill" was selected to play at the IMAX theater in Little Rock. Those aren't the qualities of a "minor filmmaker."
There are plenty of other wikipedia pages devoted to much lesser film/filmmakers. Another "very minor film" that has its own wikipedia page is "Shotgun Stories," which was a critical success. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun_Stories. "The River" film is still being scored and has not been released. I'm sure, upon its release that it'll receive critical and financial success as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chowningsferry (talk • contribs) 05:13, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- You keep using the verb 'approved' as if it were meaningful or even accurate. To repeat, IMDB is a user-built database, and 'approval' carries no real authority or weight and IMDB is not a reliable source, it's a convenient one. Shotgun Stories, in fact, has evidence of notability, so it's an irrelevant comparison--in fact, it would be irrelevant to make the comparison to begin with. As for your fervid predictions, Wikipedia isn't in the prediction business. --CalendarWatcher (talk) 05:21, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Anyone can add anything to IMDB. Stifle (talk) 10:35, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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