Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dimitris Lyacos

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The result was keep. Monty ₈₄₅ 14:29, 4 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dimitris Lyacos

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I'm nominating this page because ultimately there aren't any actual reliable sources to back up any claim of notability. It doesn't help that the article seems to have been written by a fan of his work and is at best, written with a ton of WP:OR and at the worst, reads somewhat promotional. A search for his name doesn't bring up much at all- some primary sources and some unusable hits, but nothing I could say gives notability. I used Google Translate to search for his name in Greek since it was in the article, but I didn't find much with that either. Since I know GT has its limits, I'm bringing it here rather than PRODing it. This just doesn't seem like this guy passes WP:GNG. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 14:48, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

On a side note, there was a LOT of links in the EL section at first and I removed all but one of them because they were pretty much linkspam when you got down to it. None of the links looked to be usable as a reliable source, but here is the original version. That's the only part of the article I changed. I think that this translation of his work in a literary journal that republished two of his poems and interviewed him is the only one that looks remotely usable. The problem here is that since they have translated and published his work, this would make them a WP:PRIMARY source when you get down to it. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 14:53, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:48, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Greece-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:48, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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This is a tough one, but I'm going to say Keep. There likely are many sources in Greek but sifting through every page in Greek and using a translator is cumbersome and takes an exorbitant amount of time to find appropriate sources. However, in English sources the Galway Independent refers to Lyacos as a "Renowned Greek poet" [1] and the publication Verse Wisconsin has given an extensive review of some of his work.[2] The very varied world locations of these sources outside of Greece does indicate international notability. --Oakshade (talk) 06:11, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think this article should be kept. I am a wikipedia reader as well as a reader of this author's work and i believe the article meets the notability criteria. I am citing underneath some of the international reviews on the author's work that i am aware of including the verse wisconsin one mentioned by oakshade:

http://www.asiancha.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=778&Itemid=280

<http://www.theadirondackreview.com/book122.html

<http://versewisconsin.org/Issue106/reviews106/lyacos.html

<http://dougholder.blogspot.gr/2010/12/poena-damni-by-dimitris-lyacos.html

<http://bigother.com/2011/01/17/i-know-nothing-about-translatingion-a-review-of-z213-exit-by-dimitirs-lyacos-translated-by-shorsha-sullivan/

<http://decompmagazine.com/blog/?p=378

<http://www.thewritingdisorder.com/nonfictionsullivan.html

<http://www.negativesuck.moonfruit.com/#/nov-2010-archive-8/4545252320

As i am no wikipedia expert i am reluctant to edit the article directly and upload the above sources there; I hope one of your editors can do it. --62.1.170.116 (talk) 10:36, 25 July 2013 (UTC)--62.1.170.116 (talk) 10:36, 25 July 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.1.170.116 (talk) 10:28, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep'. I see that this article is now adequately referenced. To my knowledge Dimitris Lyacos is one of the most internationally renowned greek poets, his works ranking higher in sales of different amazon sites compared to most other living greek poets that have been translated in English. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.58.167.217 (talk) 08:43, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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