Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DiscussingFilm Critics Awards

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:17, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

DiscussingFilm Critics Awards

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The current article cites AwardsWatch and Next Best Picture, which cover film awards indiscriminately and therefore do not appear to constitute significant coverage (see also this discussion). No other secondary coverage from reliable sources (Variety, THR, etc.) has been found. RunningTiger123 (talk) 16:12, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. RunningTiger123 (talk) 16:14, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Awards-related deletion discussions. RunningTiger123 (talk) 16:14, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Just going to leave a comment as article creator, as I don't think the nom comment gives the full picture (obviously?).
I made this as a stub after the subject (awards) had been mentioned/included on lots of film, actor, and list of award articles - that is, the general advice is to not include awards in lists if they do not have a Wikipedia article unless there is good third party coverage, and the forming consensus seemed to be that these awards do have the right level of notability even without an article. As the third edition then had an actual presentation, not just online, I thought the article was a reasonable creation.
The nom mentions AwardsWatch and NBP by saying they give indiscriminate coverage, which isn't exactly true, but besides, I don't think they say things along the line of "these awards have been minor but will prove more influential on the season" about everything. The specific coverage should be considered.
This treads towards OTHERSTUFF but, seriously, have you seen the number of minor Indian film award articles that are just unsourced lists? This article doesn't pretend to be more than it is, that shouldn't be a reason to delete coverage of legitimate awards before cleaning up the articles on every production company in Bollywood giving themselves meaningless awards. Imho. Kingsif (talk) 16:21, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think the award was included in lots of lists because inexperienced editors just copy all of the awards from IMDb (which is an indiscriminate and unreliable source) and make a list, not because the awards are deemed to be significant. The same thing happens with awards from, for example, Gold Derby; even though those awards are not considered notable (see this 2020 AfD), they are often added to awards lists by editors. And the note that these specific awards will "make an even deeper impact" is copied straight from the organization's website – in fact, that entire paragraph in the NBP article is copied from the org's website – so I don't think that's reasonable analysis of the organization. If anything, it casts further doubt on the ability of NBP to provide secondary coverage. Regarding the unsourced Indian film awards, I'm sure there are issues there, and I would be more than happy to move for their deletion if there are similar issues, but those aren't relevant to this discussion, in my opinion. RunningTiger123 (talk) 18:04, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Info - Note to closer for soft deletion: This nomination has had limited participation and falls within the standards set for lack of quorum. There are no previous AfD discussions, undeletions, or current redirects and no previous PRODs have been located. This nomination may be eligible for soft deletion at the end of its 7-day listing.

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--Cewbot (talk) 00:02, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 02:06, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 10:45, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Can't find any independent source about the awards or the organization, just lists of winners and nominees, which do not constitute significant coverage. Nardog (talk) 23:05, 6 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.