Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dragon Ball Z Power Levels

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Redirect to Power level (Dragon Ball Z). Deathphoenix ʕ 20:08, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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This article provides insufficient context for those unfamiliar. The information in this article has not been verified and is not reliable. No sources have been cited and the article is subject to vandalism regularly by users shown to be using "sock puppets". - 3bulletproof16 17:59, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lets return to the old days where you could just put whatever powerlevels you wanted in their Dragon Emperor 18:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete due to lack of sources. —xyzzy_n 18:06, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, unsourced and unverified. Heavily vandalized, so it may need to be protected from re-creation. --Coredesat 20:59, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• merge relevant to dragon ball z, evidently not fit for a freestanding article Joeyramoney 21:02, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• KEEP a wikipedia article should only be deleted when in danger as it cAn become a valid information source Dragon Emperor 22:07, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I would like to point out that Dragon Emperor is one of the many sock puppets responsible for the repeated vandalism of this article. -3bulletproof16 22:11, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete because who cares. Danny Lilithborne 00:17, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep powerlevels can be a basic guide to how powerful a character is Dragoneti 04:06, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • User’s first edit. —xyzzy_n 09:51, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep It is neccesary The man of might 05:15, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • User’s second edit. —xyzzy_n 09:51, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep we need this stuf Scudtchyuiop 05:18, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • User’s first edit. —xyzzy_n 09:51, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep this is important Sutle 05:20, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • User’s first edit. —xyzzy_n 09:51, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Holy sockpuppets, Batman! There's also List of transformations in dragon ball which I marked as needing cleanup per WP:AGF but should probably be deleted, too. Danny Lilithborne 06:47, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• • Comment Once again I would like to point out to the admins that these red names are sock puppets of Dragon Emperor.-3bulletproof16 17:35, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. It is a facinating article Jim Alans 17:56, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• • Comment Once again, I would like to point out to the admins that these red names are less than 48 hours old and are sock puppets of Dragon Emperor.-3bulletproof16 17:35, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom, unsourced vandal paradise. Voice of Treason 21:57, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect to Power level (Dragon Ball Z). Ben Standeven 03:39, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect per Ben Standeven. Totally redundant article, aside from other concerns noted above. --DaveG12345 08:19, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect per Ben Standeven. I believe this sort of stuff should be discussed in the articles about the characters, while the concept itself should be discussed in an article of its own (or a section in the main article). Comparative articles might be okay but need commentary on most items, and other stuff, to justify their existence. --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 11:59, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect to Power level (Dragon Ball Z) per Ben Standeven. The article has more information and is more closely watched as far as I can tell. As for sources, it states on both pages that the source is the DBZ manga. Should the numbers be tagged with which specific volume they came from? I have the relevent episodes of the anime on DVD and they have the same numbers presented in the manga in most cases. I could back that up with episode numbers if that's deemed necessary. Onikage725 14:40, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep It is a featured article worth if vandalism can be restored Potaru 00:18, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment To all the person voting Keep, why when there is a better written article available? Can you answer that? Danny Lilithborne 05:09, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• • Comment Once again, I would like to point out to all admins and editors that these red names are less than 48 hours old and are sock puppets of Dragon Emperor.-3bulletproof16 05:13, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Which is why I said "all the person". ;) Danny Lilithborne 06:26, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to the other article. If we must have an article on DBZ power levels, we may as well have a half-decent one. --UsaSatsui 06:04, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect to Power level (Dragon Ball Z) per Ben Standeven. The other article is more complete about what a power level is, and thus about what the "power" in Dragon Ball is, how it's used, etc. This article is redundant, and merely a list without much explanations, which goes against "Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information". Also the main aim of this article seems to be listing only power level from the manga and discarding any other source (which are nonetheless in the canon). This doesn't seem very neutral to me.Folken de Fanel 12:46, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete I can't monitor all the vandalism being done to the article by myself, and if there is already another article with the same information (including extrapolated numbers not given in canon sources) then that should be used instead. Daishokaioshin 19:48, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The other article doesn't include any extrapolation (except unsourced bit of interviews) and every number given is indeed canon. Please, this page is for discussing the deletion of the article, not avenging yourself and continuing futile arguments. Folken de Fanel 21:54, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment It does have extrapolations. Vegeta is never stated as having a powerlevel of 180,000 as an Oozaru, and yet it is stated there. And it's common sense. I'm not debating the validity of the other article. I am discussing the deletion, and have already voted. I am not "avenging" anything, or arguing. If you wish to make personal commentary again, then use my talk page, please.
  • Comment The anime stated that the Ōzaru is base power x 10. But if we are to talk about that, maybe it would be better to do it in the discussion of that precise article Folken de Fanel 22:24, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletions. -- ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 19:46, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect as per above comments. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 19:46, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.