Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dylan Jones (physicist)

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The result was no consensus. Spartaz ^Humbug! 07:28, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dylan Jones (physicist)

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Non-notable academic. The article originally included the claim that "Jones is one of only five black physics professors in Canada", a thin claim to notability in the first place, but that claim has been removed as there is no reliable source to verify it. No other claim to notability is made nor can any be found. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 13:30, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 13:30, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 13:30, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Appears to be a full professor with his own group [1], and his h-index is fairly high at 42, but there isn't evidence of him passing WP:NPROF. Almost no sources exist about him. – Thjarkur (talk) 13:34, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep. Searching Google scholar for author:dba-jones gives me citation counts of 1610, 737, 291, 185, 165, 156, 116, ... but the heavily cited papers have a lot of coauthors. The ones on which he was first author start at 80 and 78 citations. According to this author biography he held a Tier II Canada research chair. Both the citations and the chair are borderline for notability (Tier I would pass WP:PROF#C5). I didn't find any sourcing about his ethnicity or being notable for it. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:04, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. The subject has a Google Scholar profile, but a number of the articles on it are not from him. There are indeed some highly cited papers, but they also indeed have an awful lot of coauthors, and he's middle author in a field where order matters. @XOR'easter: I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on this one. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 18:23, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Could you give a link to the GS profile? An h-index of 42 would give a clear pass of WP:Prof#C1. Xxanthippe (talk) 22:21, 11 June 2020 (UTC).[reply]

[2], but it appears to include some unrelated medical papers as well. – Thjarkur (talk) 22:26, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, removing the medical citations I go for a Keep for WP:Prof#C1. Xxanthippe (talk) 22:41, 11 June 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Weak keep Borderline arguments for passing WP:PROF#C1 and C5, per David Eppstein. (The "Ontario Early Researcher Award" [3] mentioned in the author bio seems to be more of a grant than a prize.) Sifting out the false positives in the GS profile (the algorithm including the wrong D. Jones, etc.), there's still enough for a decent C1 case. Being a middle author weakens the case, but not enough to erase it, IMO. XOR'easter (talk) 22:27, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep. The record isn't as nearly strong as it looks at first glance, but I believe that it is a marginal pass of WP:NPROF C1 (with support from almost-C5), per the arguments set out by David Eppstein and XOR'easter. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 22:58, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete neither his citiation record nor his academic appointments actually rise to a level of passing our notability guidelines for academics.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:17, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ontario-related deletion discussions. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 13:31, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Non notable academic. There is little to suggest that this particular person's contributions are of note. A Google Scholar search brings up a list of his papers, but a standard search brings up no references about him. There is little in way of sources about this person. --Puzzledvegetable^{Is it teatime already?} 19:09, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The available referencing looks pretty typical for an academic who is recognized for their work rather than their personal life. (That situation is kind of why WP:PROF exists at all.) XOR'easter (talk) 19:53, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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