Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Evan Barker

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 05:43, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Evan Barker

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This TikTok commentator bio doesn't seem to meet notability guidelines. There is a little bit of routine coverage of her viral TikTok video in sources that are not considered reliable, like WP:DAILYMAIL, WP:NYPOST and WP:FOXNEWS. Nothing here seems to meet SIGCOV imo. BuySomeApples (talk) 04:28, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

She's not notable because of her TikTok, she's notable for her political commentary which she both publishes with news outlets and other news outlets publish about her commentary. She's actually been a commentator on Fox News itself on TV a bunch of times. I think it's legitimate to say that Fox News is not a reliable source (I think it's rated as yellow) but I think it is notable when somebody is on Fox News regularly because a lot of people see that. Ruthgrace (talk) 05:06, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have just looked through all of the citations again and none of them are "routine coverage of her viral TikTok video" -- they are actually covering her writing from The Free Press and Newsweek. I didn't cite her own writing in the article because I figured that would be a primary source rather than a secondary source, but here it is for your reference:

September 18, 2024 - https://www.newsweek.com/i-raised-millions-democrats-dnc-i-realized-theyre-party-rich-opinion-1955377

October 7, 2024 - https://www.newsweek.com/i-worked-democrats-years-billionaires-have-unfettered-influence-opinion-1961471

October 28, 2024 - https://www.newsweek.com/democratic-party-most-racist-organization-america-opinion-1976128

November 9, 2024 - https://www.thefp.com/p/democrat-fundraiser-evan-barker-i-voted-trump

Fox News appearances:

September 20, 2024 - https://www.foxnews.com/video/6362232260112 and https://www.foxnews.com/video/6362202718112

November 11, 2024 - https://www.foxnews.com/media/democratic-party-consultant-who-voted-trump-says-liberal-friends-turned-back-her

November 12, 2024 - https://www.foxbusiness.com/video/6364601436112 and https://www.foxnews.com/video/6364625064112

For the article itself I've cited other people talking about her writing or her TV commentary as secondary sources. Ruthgrace (talk) 05:32, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Ruthgrace: her own articles don't help to meet WP:GNG or WP:NJOURNALIST. Appearing on Fox News or Fox & Friends also doesn't create notability either, although a lot of people watch it. BuySomeApples (talk) 05:44, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see why a lot of people seeing a subject on the news wouldn't make that subject notable. It's true that left-leaning news outlets are more likely to be considered reliable on Wikipedia, but that doesn't mean that subjects covered regularly by right-leaning outlets not notable. Ruthgrace (talk) 06:08, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women, Television, Politics, Internet, and United States of America. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 06:41, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as there are no reliable sources in this article to meet Wikipedia's general notability requirement. Fox News is classified as generally unreliable in the perennial sources list for politics and science. Newsweek since 2013 is classified as marginally reliable. The New York Post is also generally unreliable. I'm not clear about the reliablility of Public News, but the article is paid so it doesn't count. Discussion about The Free Press concluded that it's a self published source, at least as of now, and thus can't count towards notability. At the moment the subject is notable for one event (WP:BIO1E), that she was a democratic fundraiser who voted for Donald Trump. This may be a case of WP:TOOSOON and if the subject has additional coverage over time in generally reliable sources it should be revisited. Nnev66 (talk) 18:24, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla _{Ohhhhhh, no!} 06:09, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - the sourcing is practically a checklist of perennial deprecated sources. All that's missing is PRNewswire. Newsweek used to be reliable but read their article to see O how the mighty have fallen. Bearian (talk) 02:15, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Articles written by the subject of the (Wiki) article themselves do not count for notability. Moreover, amost all of them originate from sources considered unreliable by the community. Silvymaro (talk) 20:19, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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