Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fictional inventions and machines on The Simpsons

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 01:02, 15 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fictional inventions and machines on The Simpsons

Recently various pages of similar content, such as the Metal Gear glossary, have been deleted, this is of a similar vain and will likely never obtain any real world info †he Bread 04:17, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fancruft, listcruft. Basically List of jokes on The Simpsons episodes involving fictional machines. What next? List of Simpsons jokes involving food, List of Simpsons jokes involving animals etc etc Bwithh 04:46, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete I'm iffy on this, just because in most cases, "List of fictional...whatever" articles are lists of things inherent to the nature of the show, for example, List of Futurama products--Futurama is set in the future, and a common joke on the show involves humourous, fururistic twists on modern-day products. The Simpsons is about family life and pop-culture in general--not inventions. This is just an extremely large list of an extremely random aspect of the show. Unless someone could provide a pretty good argument for keeping, I'd say delete (and who knows, there are some people who may be searching for this very thing?). Wavy G 06:45, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep There's no question that the Simpsons is notable, and will have a fair number of articles devoted to it. This list involves inventions which are often the focus of an episode, and in preference to having an article on each one, as some might possibly deserve it, I'd prefer just this one, as it can be more inclusive. Though I think this list should have links to the episodes the invention appeared in(some do already, some don't). In addition, you should note there is a List of products in The Simpsons (not to mention Vehicles and Homer's jobs) with which this could be merged as a seperate section. FrozenPurpleCube 07:55, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, I don't think lenght is a good argument against this list. It is not extremely large(though I could agree with removing some of the entries, that is not due to length, just inclusion), not necessarily going to get extremely large(I suppose the Simpsons could go on forever, but that's not a good argument for no list), and is short in comparison to some of the existing simpsons articles (like Neologisms of the Simpsons).

Delete, Simpsonscruft, if the events were notable, move it to any appopriate article. Simpsons is rather notable, and I suggest a Simpsons wiki would be suitable for such stuff. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia not a fan site. This article has no potential of being kept, its basically nothing but fancruft. --Ter e nc e Ong _{(C | R)} 12:32, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - The Simpsons is one of the most important tv shows of all time and this is a useful directory of some classic material. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheChimpanator (talk • contribs)

Yes, I agree that the simpsons are important but wikipedia is not a place for all the useless fancruft out there, AFD isn't a place where you want to keep it because you like the article, it's a place to discuss if the article is sutable for keeping by meeting wikipedia policies, which this doesn't per Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, WP:CRUFT and also WP:NOR. Delete Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 22:09, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Wavy Gravy and Bwithh. Move it to the Simpsons wiki. Andrew Levine 17:09, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - There are plenty of aspects of The Simpsons that are notable due to their pervasiveness in popular culture. This just isn't one of them. --cholmes75 ^{(chit chat)} 17:43, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into List of products in The Simpsons as per Manticore. I would say 'redirect' except that I don't see anybody finding it under this rather randomly titled article anyway, so a redirect may be unnecessary. --Christofurio 19:54, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Redirects are part of merges, to keep the article history in order to comply with the GFDL. Basically, we have to have a record of the edits. FrozenPurpleCube 02:23, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Andrew Levine. Simpsoncruft. Danny Lilithborne 22:23, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep It think its notable and should be tidied up. scope_creep 22:28, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I like the Simpsons, I think most people do, and, more importantly, it is one of the most important shows in the past two decades. That being said, this does NOT mean we need lists for every-possible thing involving The Simpsons. This is listcruft/fancruft. Bwitth makes the same point I'd argue; if we let this stay, then we have to let virtually all lists regarding The Simpsons, no matter how random, stay. --The Way 23:01, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
~~Keep~~ strong strong keep Its an interesting article, I'm sorry to say I recognise many of the inventions and its a fabulous article which has collected together some very intesting aspects of the series into one place. Is it encyclopedic? Having written some stuff on the inrationality of faith in invention, it would be very useful to have an article with so many "irrational" inventions from which to draw examples. If anything I would like to see more details on each, some diagrams or pictures, but what is already there is a very good source material. Perhaps it should be compared to a Heath Robinson invention --Mike 23:05, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Having looked at Heath Robinson I've just discovered that it doesn't cover the subject of "heath robinson" inventions at all and apparently the only source in Wikipedia is this article. I'm therefore strongly urging everyone to change their mind and vote to keep--Mike 23:07, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Errr... I really don't think one-time gags on the Simpsons are comparable to the level of imagination found in drawings of Heath Robinson or Rube Goldberg. (though yes, the Robinson article needs expansion (though not an article on every single drawing he did) and the Goldberg article is need of substantial cleanup). Bwithh 02:43, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Bwithh, Terence Ong, The Way. Angus McLellan (Talk) 11:34, 10 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into List of Products in The Simpsons.--Veon 17:18, 12 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per Veon, i belive its still semi-important and needs to be somewhere. Kingpomba 02:05, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That list doesn't exist †he Bread 03:14, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Give me a break. Next thing you know, we'll have Number of times 'D'oh!' is exclaimed on The Simpsons.--WaltCip 16:54, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Expand if possible, otherwise delete Go Futurama! Sp3000 10:43, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.