Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Flow 187 (Rapper)
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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 15:34, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
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No signs this person meets WP:GNG. A review of the references provided show they're all from sites that allow PR agencies to post promotional pieces, in fact 3 of the links are the exact same press release just posted in different places. Article is full of unreferenced unsourced promotional claims like the subject being a "famous photographer." The "widely regarded as one of the most dynamic speakers" line is right from the press releases. User name on the account that created the page is the same as the group behind the press releases. His book is self published and not covered anywhere. No record label, no charted hits, no big collabs, etc. Puff piece. JamesG5 (talk) 02:33, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
- As a quick note, I didn't speedy this largely because one of the 2 editors involved with creating it has created it & had it speedied multiple times earlier this year, wanted to take it to AfD to clarify it instead of just speedying again. JamesG5 (talk) 03:03, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - Daaang JamesG5 laid it all out like a G6. Definitely a puff piece with no indicia of reliability. Michepman (talk) 02:40, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 05:53, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 05:53, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
- Comment - I agree with JamesG5. I removed poor and unreliable sources and the associated material as required by Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. The remaining sources are all copies of the same publicity piece, and demonstrate no notability. --Ronz (talk) 16:15, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
- This article seems fine to have online. If anything it needs some minor edits not deletion. Wiki team let’s help this article this subject seems valid. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:1701:E351:3D5A:C827:6FEB:CF29 (talk) 15:23, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
- Every blog is written through PR and Staff in every magazine or online pub or news... Also subject has many great references and collaborations, & book has been covered. I will site all references here that I found Online on this subject. I understand that You are not familiar with the artist in subject but there are many subjects on this website that have 0 relevance to be on here and are marked as not having enough supporting cites but are not marked for speedy deletion. Some of the people on this website abuse their power. JamesG5 Didi't lay it out at all. This is more references on the subject
- Press & Links:
- https ://open.spotify.com/artist/4BrrFONNOXK6mnArGNYQo6
- https: //soundcloud.com/rob-flow-roots
- https: //www.imdb.com/name/nm10653338/
- https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Flow%20187
- https: //www.instagram.com/flow187official/?hl=en
- https://www.dopecausewesaid.com/dope-features/interview-los-angeles-based-rapper-author-and-entrepreneur-flow-187
- https://www.thehypemagazine.com/2018/07/flow-187-the-wave/
- https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/tags/flow-187/
- https://unitedmasters.com/flow-187
- https: //mymixtapez.com/album/172511
- https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Flow+187&i=digital-music&search-type=ss&ref=ntt_srch_drd_B0773ZTWBY
- https://music.apple.com/us/artist/flow-187/943409674
- https://hiphopsince1987.com/2019/videos/flow-187-trap-video/
- https://medium.com/@hillstromjarrod012/flow-187-hip-hop-musician-author-music-producer-6bc47b640ad6
- https://genius.com/albums/Flow187/The-wave-flow-187
- https://indiehitmaker.com/ihm_artist/flow-187/
- http://www.fox21delmarva.com/story/41433622/meet-flow-187-the-hip-hop-entrepreneur-boasting-passion-and-creativity
- http://miamibangerz.blogspot.com/2018/05/flow-187-flow187official-wave.html
- https://www.abc6.com/story/41433622/meet-flow-187-the-hip-hop-entrepreneur-boasting-passion-and-creativity
- https://www.news9.com/story/41433622/meet-flow-187-the-hip-hop-entrepreneur-boasting-passion-and-creativity
- https://www.abc6.com/story/41433622/meet-flow-187-the-hip-hop-entrepreneur-boasting-passion-and-creativity
- https://www.magic1065.com/story/41433622/meet-flow-187-the-hip-hop-entrepreneur-boasting-passion-and-creativity
- https://www.fox34.com/story/41433622/meet-flow-187-the-hip-hop-entrepreneur-boasting-passion-and-creativity
- https://thriveglobal.com/stories/what-this-music-artist-taught-me-about-passion-determination-creativity/
- https://www.newreleasetoday.com/author_rank.php
- https://ideamensch.com/rob-roots/
- https://www.bookdepository.com/Falling-Isnt-Failing-Rob-Roots/9780615474670
- Links pertaining music, Movies, Books, Etc are all included. I'm not going to over cite the subject if im writing facts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TomWestmeyers (talk • contribs) 17:34, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
- I respect the effort, but most of those sources are garbage. (Medium.com, amazon/com, newreleasetoday, mymixtapez.com). None of those would pass WP:RS. The few that are OK are all copies of each other and don't demonstrate the sustained, ongoing and significant coverage required by WP:SIGCOV. I have nothing but respect for the subject of this article and I respect of course the work of the people who contributed to the article, but Wikipedia has specific rules for writing biographies of living people (WP:BLP) and this just doesn't cut it. Michepman (talk) 02:35, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
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