Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Folsom Public Library
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. —Mizu onna sango15Hello! 21:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Folsom Public Library (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)
While there are ghits and news hits, they appear limited to the following: 1) library closure notifications 2) events at the library and 3) voting issues, none of which establish notability for the library. Some of the text, i.e. The age, design and limited space of the building no longer sustain the needs of our city’s growing community. appears to be a copyvio but it may be offline as I can't find the source. StarM 04:43, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. -- StarM 04:43, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Museums and libraries-related deletion discussions. -- StarM 04:44, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. I added some references. I suspect that the reason the county library's branch was closed was California's Proposition 13 which put limits on local taxes and led to significant cutbacks in local government services. The references show significant coverage, and more can probably be found. It would be helpful to have information about the library's special collections and whether the library's buildings have won any awards. -- Eastmain (talk) 05:14, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment the references show nothing of notability, local coverage of issues related to funding and expansion. Ones that I'd venture a guess are issues every library faces. I know local ones in two places I've lived have had similar issues and they're not notable either. Closed or not doesn't matter, it doesn't get notability for having been closed. I wold agree that if it's buildings won any awards it might be notable, but I found no evidence of that being the case. StarM 05:26, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Seems notable to me. Could certainly be improved. ChildofMidnight (talk) 06:52, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment We dont have clear practices here. In general any library will have many inconsequential newspaper or web notices, dealing with events taking place there, and the periodic bond issue as tax rate approvals. --but they don't really speak to notability. In a range of inconsistent decisions here, usually city library systems are notable, as are large country systems. Town libraries usually not. (And obviously any particular library can be notable for some reason as an exception, just like anything else.)i On the other hand, if people want to interpret this broadly, on the basis that libraries are intrinsically so important that almost any established one is notable on the basis of its importance to the education of the community, I can't see how a librarian like me would object to it--but, honestly, I don't think we've reached that degree of public understanding quite yet, although I'm pleased to see so many wikipedians think so. :).
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 03:43, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge/Redirect to Folsom, California--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 05:41, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Per Eastmain. (This would be a great Johnny Cash parody tune, too!) Ecoleetage (talk) 13:55, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep A library is probably more worthy of a WP article than many other things. Article is sourced. No reason to delete. Northwestgnome (talk) 15:56, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment as DGG says above, that consensus is not clear. Existence is not notability. StarM 17:06, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Those limited sources don't get this across the WP:N or WP:ORG thresholds in my view as they're hardly 'significant coverage' or in-depth. Nick-D (talk) 01:00, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as copyvio Essentially all of the article is a copyvio from their about us page I should have checked that before. If however it were important enough, one could quickly use to to write a proper article. But it isn't-- Folsum, a suburb of Sacramento, is not a county library, but a small city library in a large county. It has 73,000 books; the Sacramento City and County library, with which it is affiliated, has a total of 1.9 million items. that's just one indicator, but it's representative of importance. DGG (talk) 02:57, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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