Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/For Enforcing Peace

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. While there is a majority of people voicing keep opinions here reading the discussion reveals a split between whether the coverage is sufficient to establish notability or whether the coverage fails WP:NOT#NEWS. As such am closing as no consensus. Davewild (talk) 10:09, 28 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

For Enforcing Peace

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

A non-governmental medal awarded by an organization with dubious notability. Has been deleted from ru-wiki already. _{Óðinn ☭☆ talk} 07:38, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tentative Keep - it seems to be covered in Russian-language media: [1]; [2]; [3]. I don't read Russian, and so am relying on Google translations, but it appears to be somewhat notable. I'd be interested in knowing what arguments were put forward in the Russian AfD or equivalent. I am always hesitant to jump to deleting articles that depend on non-English sources. One of the wonderful things about Wikipedia is providing information on notable subjects that may not otherwise be available to readers who do not speak the language where the subject's notability is most often expressed. TJRC (talk) 18:44, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Additional Information The Russian Wikipedia afd is here: [4]. Here's a Google translate (you'll need to go to the original to link to the pages cited).TJRC (talk) 18:53, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Medal "For peace enforcement"

Regional public organization with the enterprise for the production of symbols has established a medal. Sources other than the site organization is not given. The significance of the organization under a big question. Pessimist2006 08:35, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Add. Establishment of the awards was widely reported in the press [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16]. SashaT 10:00, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

X Delete a momentary interest in the press, but there is no encyclopedic value. Seelöwe 10:02, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

X Delete - no award, but a PR stunt. Wikipedia writes about the medals, but not their virtual display on websites or promotional campaigns, producers of symbols. In an article on the organization itself was looked would be appropriate .-- Vissarion 11:29, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

X Remove this medal has no significance .-- I. 15:48, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

X Delete. Not significantly ShinePhantom 08:30, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Outcome

Removed under discussion. EvgenyGenkin 01:09, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Comment - it has been covered by the press indeed, but one has to wonder if the minute interest of the media is enough. The medal is not a state decoration, but a private initiative of a private organization with unsubstantiated notability. _{Óðinn ☭☆ talk} 19:22, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Tim Song (talk) 00:10, 13 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 07:06, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The sources provided by TJRC (talk · contribs) establish notability. Having reviewed the sources with Google Translation (see 1, 2, and 3), I have determined that the depth of coverage is enough to establish notability for this medal.
In response to Óðinn (talk · contribs): notability is defined by whether or not a topic has received enough reliable sources. Because For Enforcing Peace has received this coverage, it not being a state decoration is irrelevant when deciding whether it meets Wikipedia's inclusion policy. Cunard (talk) 08:12, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Passes WP:N. Joe Chill (talk) 03:36, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I tried to Google the medal (in Russian) and found loads of links from the date of the announcement (Aug08, of course the time of the 2008 South Ossetia war). So I wondered if the medals had ever been issued, and found [5] which appears to show the recipients, and a blog entry [6] under the heading Я согласен на медаль... Почем? where the blogger seems to be saying "it was a nice idea but now these medals can be bought on the net for 600-1000 roubles". Perhaps a Russian speaker could do better. See also the Russian WP AFD quoted above a momentary interest in the press, but there is no encyclopedic value. Sussexonian (talk) 23:02, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NOT#NEWS. I have a reading knowledge of Russian, and the sources offered don't seem to me to go beyond a brief flurry of coverage in minor partisan publications. Phil Bridger (talk) 23:33, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep based on the following passage "The public award established specifically for the moral support of the peacekeeping operation to force Georgia to peace and the elimination of the humanitarian catastrophe in South Ossetia", - the chairman of the Board Mikhail Moiseyev."from [7], cited above also--what appears to be a genuine news article based on the story as carired by TAS, the national news service. Mikhail Moiseyev about whom we, incredibly, do not have an article, was the chief of the general staff of the Soviet armed forces--if it is the same person. The name is fairly common, but it seems likely from context. The wording of the sources & the award does seem to indicate an award by an extreme-nationalist group. DGG ( talk ) 00:31, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is a different Moiseyev (M.M); the general's initials are M.A. _{Óðinn ☭☆ talk} 06:53, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.