Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gerhard Windolf

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Vanjagenije (talk) 09:57, 15 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Gerhard Windolf

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Non-notable masters athlete who fails to meet WP:GNG. All of the sources on the article are just routine result lists. A search has not produced any "significant coverage" as required by WP:N. DJSasso (talk) 17:03, 19 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Fails WP:GNG. There must be reliable sources about the subject, and not just passing mentions, in order to satisfy notability. SW3 5DL (talk) 19:41, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Some of the sources provide substaintial coverage including a 4 minute news clip from what I think is a German news station (tough to tell exactly what it is because it is in German). We should note that because most of the sources are not in English, there is likely many sources that a google search would miss, and hence google searches are not a good source for this notability discussion. MATThematical (talk) 21:40, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly which of the sources on this page do you think have substantial coverage? Certainly none of the ones on the article which are purely made up of result lists. I also don't see this news clip you mention, perhaps I am missing something. -DJSasso (talk) 12:06, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- It is actually a 3 minute Televesion clip (not 4, sorry for the error) from the TV station RTL in norway. It takes a while to load, so it is easy to miss in the last reference, 14. I'm not so sure if it is enough on its own to gaurantee WP:GNG coverage, because I don't speak the language, but at least in the United States a 3 minute TV story is very substantial, most "local man does X" stories are very short, less than a minute, at every channel I have watched). I think its existence does suggest that other sources would be pretty easy to find by a native speaker located in Norway, caution must be taken in an AFD when we don't speak the language the sources are in. MATThematical (talk)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz ^talk 02:51, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kurykh (talk) 00:10, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep There are enough sources to keep this article about this sports player viable.TH1980 (talk) 00:36, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Winning World Masters Athletics Championships four times seems like a strong claim of notability to me. It's strange, though, that WP:NATHLETE doesn't really cover decathlons and other track and field events. ~Anachronist (talk) 03:28, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

They are covered in the WP:NTRACK section. That is actually why this article was created. The author was trying to prove he could find coverage for any medal winning masters athlete because addition of masters athletes to ntrack has been routinely rejected there because most of them they simply can't be sourced. This one is borderline as there appears to be possibly a video source, although nothing else has been turned up so it fails having multiple sources. -DJSasso (talk) 22:14, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep A strong claim of notability backed up by the sources needed to support the claim. Alansohn (talk) 18:26, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I would point out there is only one possible source in the video. We do require multiple, all the other sources on the page are results lists. I have been unable to turn anything else up. I have no problem keeping if we can indeed find some more sources. -DJSasso (talk) 22:15, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

What is your reason for "harburg-aktuell" not being considered as another source. Again it is in German, so tough to tell, but that article is very extensive. It talks about his family his training, his childhood as a gymnast, and his injuries. This certainly isn't a WP:ROUTINE sports listing of mere statistics, so I am assuming you are arguing that "harburg-aktuell" isn't a reliable source. Please explain why, as you have yet to explain why this source should not be counted towards his notability. --MATThematical (talk) 02:52, 11 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.