- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was Delete --Allen3 talk 00:34, 21 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Definition and quite detailed Etymology of a Hiberno-English expression which I think is local to Dublin and possibly ephemeral of the 70s-80s; I've never heard of it. There are no references. A different etymology is suggested here. Wikipedia is not a dictionary; No original research Joestynes 21:10, 15 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nomination. Joestynes 21:10, 15 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete I'm well familar with the phrase, being a Dub and all that. It belongs in Wiktionary, though .. - Ali-oops✍ 21:28, 15 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per Ali-oops RMoloney 23:35, 15 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. This kind of article is original research until proven otherwise. -Splashtalk 03:46, 16 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep I am the author of this article and would like to respond to criticisms: It is maintained that it should be in Wiktionary but the article is more than a definition, it explores at length the origin of the term and is as much a social study as a definition. It is certainly not local to Dublin as it is heard throughout Ireland. Nor is it ephemeral to the 1970s-80s. It is very much in use today. There are no references because I know of none: I went to the school in question where the phrase arose and witnessed its origin, development and growth personally. It was not in use prior to the 1960s. The link suggested by a critic to an alternative etymology offers no proof of its speculation about "yardarms", which were not an item in common conversation at the time the phrase arose, in the 1960s. Yardarms were common in antique conversation. The development of "Get up the yard" was something I witnessed personally: it is the only word or phrase I have seen from its inception. Odea 02:42, 19 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- umm - then it's 1) original research and 2) non-noteable? It's certainly not in common parlance in Ireland today, BTW, other than maybe with Dustin the Turkey - Ali-oops✍ 03:06, 20 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.