Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Girlfriend from Hell
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Armbrust The Homunculus 16:42, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NF and WP:NPOV. Passes gng though. Mr. Guye (talk) 22:52, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
- Weak keep. Finding in-depth reviews for 25-year-old "B" movies is a bit of a challenge. There's a pretty good writeup here though, and another here. I would have expected more for a movie that's supposedly attracted a cult following. Ivanvector (talk) 23:26, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
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- Weak keep. There are two reviews on RT and one from AllMovie, plus an article on the musical. I did remove the cult movie remark since there's really nothing to truly back that up anywhere, but there is enough here for a weak keep. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 04:30, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
- Comment. Joe Bob Briggs did a review. Not sure if that's enough for notability. Allmovie is really not worth much in terms of notability; they're a comprehensive guide. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 06:14, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
- JBB is definitely usable as a reliable source. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 06:26, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
- It seems like the world is a slightly better place when you know that Joe Bob Briggs is still in Texas and reviewing drive-in movies. Maybe I could finally shake off this malaise if I knew that there were more planned sequels to The Toxic Avenger. And, no, a big budget, PG-13 remake doesn't count – that's an entirely different kind of abomination to film. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 09:20, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
- For some reason I read that bit in Sam Elliot's voice ala Big Lebowski final voice-over. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 09:49, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
- Good God, you're right! I can hear it now, too. If I'm subconsciously channeling cult films, maybe it's time for an intervention. I should have known that obsessively writing about cult films on Wikipedia would have this effect eventually. One the positive side, I found a few more sources: a snippet view that seems to insinuate that the film was reviewed by the San Francisco Chronicle, an interview with the star on a random blog (not very useful for notability but an interesting read), and some production details from the Los Angeles Times. All in all, not a good haul, but if someone else confirms my suspicion that the book is quoting the SF Chronicle, I guess that's enough for me to vote to keep. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 12:29, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
- Keep. Nobody has commented, but I guess there are enough sources to keep it. There are indications that it received significant coverage in reliable sources, even if we can't quite locate them today. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 07:16, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
- Keep, poorly received film, but the amount of coverage is good. — Cirt (talk) 15:11, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
- Keep (WP:SK?) per the nominator offering in his own comment that the topic passes WP:GNG. THAT gives us a pass of WP:NF. I do not see how a film article speaking about a film's production and reception somehow violates WP:NPOV... and even were it to do so, THAT would be a matter for regular editing, and not deletion of a topic meeting WP:GNG. Schmidt, Michael Q. 09:49, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
- So WP:GNG supersedes WP:NF? --Mr. Guye (talk) 18:49, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- @Mr. Guye: Yes. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 21:07, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- WP:NF is a list of additional guidelines for films; WP:GNG is always adequate. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 21:16, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- @Mr. Guye: Yes. Please refer to film notabilty's "General principles". No aspersion intended, but the other attributes are considered only when the GNG is failed, and when it is met, addressing concerns becomes a matter of regular editing. And there is no shame in a considered withdrawal. Thanks. Schmidt, Michael Q. 21:22, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
- So WP:GNG supersedes WP:NF? --Mr. Guye (talk) 18:49, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
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