Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/H.A.M.M.E.R. (2nd nomination)

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The result was merge‎ to List of Marvel Comics teams and organizations. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:40, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

H.A.M.M.E.R.

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Kept in AfD 10 years ago, so prod-ineligible - but at PROD level, sigh. Pure plot summary with a few mentions of comics etc. this organization appeared in, no analysis/reception. The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing Wikipedia:General notability guideline requirement nor the more detailed Wikipedia:Notability (fiction) supplementary essay. WP:BEFORE did not reveal any significant coverage on Gnews, Gbooks or Gscholar. We can consider redirecting this per ATD-R to List of Marvel Comics teams and organizations _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:59, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements, Science fiction and fantasy, and Comics and animation. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:59, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge selectively to List of Marvel Comics teams and organizations#H. The Avengers and Philosophy as a secondary sources does have some commentary, at various places but especially p. 71-73, but mostly in relation to Norman Osborn and thus would just as well fit to Norman Osborn#H.A.M.M.E.R. and the Dark Avengers. Daranios (talk) 11:26, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect The coverage does not justify an article under the Wikipedia:General notability guideline requirement. Jontesta (talk) 20:33, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to its section at List of Marvel Comics teams and organizations in the spirit of WP:PRESERVE should no notability can be found before this discussion ends. --Rtkat3 (talk) 23:49, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per all. There isn't WP:SIGCOV but we can try to WP:PRESERVE some mention of this. Shooterwalker (talk) 21:14, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment A simple redirect to List of Marvel Comics teams and organizations without merging at least a minimum of information seems not very helpfull to me, as the section currently only contains the link back here. Daranios (talk) 13:54, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- You just have to transfer some H.A.M.M.E.R. information to that section with attribute should this discussion's outcome ends with a merge. --Rtkat3 (talk) 15:29, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  - Agreed. But definitionwise, that's what would be called a merge, not a redirect, right? Daranios (talk) 12:36, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    - Now my suggestion has been corrected. --Rtkat3 (talk) 13:52, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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