Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hadoop Hive

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 15:11, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hadoop Hive

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This article is written as a how-to, with no independent sources or valid coverage at all. Seems like an unremarkable piece of software, but moreover it is not written in an encyclopedic tone. Also, everything is hyperlinked, including text like "go to (some url)"; so this appears to be borderline WP:ADVERT. Further proof of advertising: Cloudera... has excellent training videos... — Timneu22 · talk 18:46, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed some of the issues that you raised, and I hope that this will help you consider this article a legitimate entry. The technology is certainly not unremarkable, and is currently in use by many cutting-edge companies. I intend for this article to be expanded upon by others working with Hive, and have only laid the groundwork for someone to get a basic insight into Hive. Patrickmccoy · talk 19:48, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
1. "In order to install hive"... see WP:NOT#HOWTO, which was already mentioned. — Timneu22 · talk 19:58, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  Removed Above Patrickmccoy · talk 20:14, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
2. No independent coverage or sources. — Timneu22 · talk 20:04, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Look, I believe you're trying, but the article is just nowhere close to being a valid encyclopedia topic. I can't go over every sentence and tell you what to correct. (Here's one: Once configured, Hive provides a really easy to use and understand SQL-like interface.) There are grammatical problems, tone problems, advertising problems, but overall, you just haven't provided any sources for this. WP:N. — Timneu22 · talk 20:17, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Hadoop. Without WP:RS there can't be a standalone article. Suggest finding a source or three and summarize a single para. Eddie.willers (talk) 23:24, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:58, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete don't merge. The proposed merge target is inappropriate subject matter for this material. Hadoop is framework. Hive is product using the framework. If this material non-notable and promotional the proposed merge target would give wider exposure to the audience it seeks - that is a second bad reason to merge. Miami33139 (talk) 17:08, 26 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:01, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, don't merge. This product would seem to be an independent product that just happens to be built on the Hadoop chassis, and as such there's nothing to merge to the main article. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 14:58, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.