Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Helmut and Erika Simon

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The result was Delete The tipping point is that the notability in inextricably linked to the iceman - so little notable is Erika that no one could come up with a birth date or even year for her. There is no evidence of any coverage of these people other than as the unintentional discoverers of the ice man. A redirect from each of these names to the ice man article is OK (I'll create it presently) but it is unlikely that anyone is going to search on this precise term. Carlossuarez46 04:23, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Helmut and Erika Simon

Only notable thing they did was discover the remains of Oetzi, a Copper Age mummy. Besides that, nothing. Jmlk 1 7 09:53, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Found a news article linked from Ötzi the Iceman. --slakr^(talk) 10:00, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. They don't appear to be notable enough for a separate article (per WP:BLP1E). All relevant information is already covered by the Ötzi the Iceman article. —gorgan_almighty 10:17, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral Just about enough to go on here for Helmut, not so much for Erika.. I was thinking BLP1E when I first read it, but there's a little more; Otzi's curse is pretty well documented and the Guardian / Telegraph / Channel 4 are certainly good references. If the lawsuit was better established as significant I'd be leaning keep, but right now it could be merged with Otzi. Deiz talk 14:17, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or merge to Ötzi the Iceman. At least Helmut is notable enough to have separate articlea in three other-language wikis. – sgeureka ^t•c 14:52, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This is clear-cut per WP:BLP1E. Mention perhaps can be made at the Ötzi the Iceman page. Eusebeus 16:03, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect to Ötzi the Iceman. This is a plausible search term and they deserve mention there, but there isn't enough for a full article, even with the award and "curse". --Dhartung | Talk 00:04, 31 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Clarify "Helmut and Erika Simon" isn't itself a plausible search term, but GFDL requires the redirect if a merge takes place. Helmut Simon and Erika Simon both are redirects here, and would be plausible search terms. Caveat: both names are wikilinked from other articles, and I don't believe those uses are these particular people. --Dhartung | Talk 00:08, 31 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. I have nothing against a merge, but as far as I can see the relevant information is already in the Ötzi the Iceman article. —gorgan_almighty 13:01, 31 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per WP:NOT#NEWS as I do not think one event is enough to grant notability Corpx 00:24, 31 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - notable for one event is still notable. Edward321 03:42, 1 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Edward321, please read WP:BLP1E. —gorgan_almighty 10:28, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.