Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hercules Networks

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The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 18:54, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hercules Networks (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)

Corporation, not notable. I speedied previously and it has reappeared with a minor tweak or two. There is still nothing to establish that this is anything more than an unfunded startup with a handful of people, an idea, and no money. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 20:02, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Not notable.--Talain (talk) 22:29, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 23:17, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The company has significant funding - though private, the revenue is such that we are a nationwide distributor. If you visit the corporate website, you'll see that there are partnerships with many notable corporations such as Target, AT&T, Six Flags, etc. As for the experience of staff, again, on the corporate site you will see that the staff has very notable people, with extensive background and experience. There have also been many outside sources that have reported on the company and its practices, including a Fox News interview. I am not sure what is required to meet the notability guideline, but what specifics there may be can likely be met. Simon311A (talk) 00:50, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My reply is at User talk:Simon311A. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 03:03, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - I don't see teh depth of coverage here that would clear the notability bar. -- Whpq (talk) 16:27, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a list of some of the external sources that have covered Hercules Networks:

• AT+T Brands ACM's
• AT+T places ACM's in Celtics Stadium
• Daily DOOH reports on ACM's in Malls
• Reuters on Hercules
• Meetings and Conventions Magazine says ACM's ingenious...
• TradeShow Week Reports on ACM's Hitting the Convention Marketplace
• Hercules Networks, King featured in "ROI and Optimizing Your Network"
• Exhibitor Magazine on ACM's
• Hercules Networks' ACM's named 1 of 11 Must Have Products
• The Vending Times Reports on ACM's hitting the market:
• Fox News: Paul King and Kim Bishop discuss best hiring methods
• Hercules Networks Mall Rollout Covered by Media Week
• Get a Cell Phone Boost and a Marketing Message

Simon311A (talk) 04:20, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - I'm really torn. On the one hand, these links show that this business meets the general notability guideline. On the other hand, I know from experience how easy it is for a startup to get this sort of coverage and how little fact checking is behind many of these articles. Most of these rags, you send them a press kit with some photos, a case study, and quotes from a customer, and they'll publish anything. You could almost tell them you've just patented the electric light bulb and have an exclusive contract with GE and they'd print it. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 05:08, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Point taken, but Vending Times for example, has been around since 1962 and had quite detailed coverage of Hercules Networks. As for fact verification, healthy revenue is hard to prove as it is private, but key partnerships with notable companies such as AT&T can be supported by the existence of branded machines - AT&T Machines Simon311A (talk) 13:41, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. Just to add a couple more sources..
• Hercules on Firmvoice
• Hercules Networks’ ACMs Now Available to Major Advertising Agencies through rVue Exchange for DOOH

Simon311A (talk) 20:34, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 23:37, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Wikipedia is not a corporate directory for minor, non-notable business. It can come back when it actually is notable. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:18, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as this article is no more than a Public relations exercise. News announcements, particularly those generated by the company itself, are not admissible as evidence of notability. notability is not temporary: a topic needs to have had sufficient coverage in reliable sources to meet the general notability guideline. --Gavin Collins (talk|contribs) 10:44, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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