Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Information Technology Channel

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was KEEP. 05:01, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

The article is started by the owner of the website/channel. Is not neutral. Self-promotion. Google test fails. See talk page. Behdad 08:41, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to draw everybody's attention to User:Sina's vote, he's saying the channel does not exist anymore. So it started sometime in 2004, and doesn't exist in mid 2005. Instead of saying "notable for me", please think about it, is wikipedia your reference for checking the truth behind content on wikipedia? So far Sina is the only one that has commented based on the existence of this channel in real world. —behdad (talk) 19:43, 30 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that was my vote and I don't see any necessity for analysing my voting record or how I am voting.--Sina 23:34, 30 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not analysing your vote, but highlighting the fact that you mentioned in your vote record. —behdad (talk) 02:02, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. Needs NPOVing, but TV stations are automatically notable, surely. --Last Malthusian 10:49, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Even a private TV station started last year in a non-English language? Behdad 10:55, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

What's so private about it? And what on earth does the language have to do with it? It's not even that bad a page when you consider other self-promotion pages - its main neutrality problems are the apparently inflated viewing figures and that photo, both of which I've now removed. --Last Malthusian 11:01, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe I should translate the website and put it on the talk page. The private thing is that this channel has the photo of one man on the front page, team and "Live" pages are "under construction", instead the list of DVDs for sale works. And on the front page you will notice the "Virtual University, coming soon." In fact I will be happy enough if someone confirm that he/she can actually watch this 24-hour program on satellite. The information for that is also available at the front page. I don't have the facilities. Thanks. Behdad 14:11, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Information Technology Channel (ITC) is the first 24-hour TV channel in the Persian language with the aim of teaching computer science. I'm not surprised a Google search doesn't yield much since it's Persian, but Malthusian is right. This is pretty clearly notable. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:09, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't have a Persian name. Behdad 11:40, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep and feel appalled at Behdad's WP:BIAS against non-English topics. Kappa 12:38, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It's nothing to do with non-English, I'm native/expert Persian and hang around Persian and Iranian content. Behdad 14:04, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Assume good faith, eh? I don't see any indication that Behdad is biased against Persian topics. - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 14:25, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - proponent of deletion has the same opportunity to improve this article as anyone else has. Andy Mabbett 13:28, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Right. But quite like that wp is not a website-directory, I'm not convinced that this ITC is worth an article. In this case in fact it's factuality is under question for me. The web site (quite like the original version of the article at the time I filed deletion) claims "ITC is the first IT network in the world that has helped millions of people in the world towards better eduacation." [[1]] (translated from Persian.) I'm not really sure it airs 24. Behdad 14:17, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep notable enough for me, but needs a bit of a cleanup chowells 16:23, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Notable on a number of levels. Needs a bit of clean-up. 23skidoo 17:24, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. No longer exist.--Sina 14:00, 28 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Can you clarify please, so the broadcast does not exist anymore on the air?
    • I just voted, Not only broadcast the whole channel does not exist anymore.--Sina 11:47, 30 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• keep please it seems notable to me and we need to avoid our biases Yuckfoo 23:54, 29 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.