Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/IntelliStar (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to WeatherStar#IntelliStar. Stifle (talk) 14:28, 24 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

IntelliStar

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I believe that this article currently fails WP:INDISCRIMINATE; the vast majority of the article appears to be the equivalent of an enormous software log. Similarly, the sources present (and what I could find using a google search), do not indicate WP:SIGCOV from multiple independent RS. I would recommend that this article be redirected to Weatherstar, which is where IntelliStar's successor, IntelliStar 2, currently redirects to. (And, on a side note, Intellistar (the version without camel case), currently is a redirect to Weatherstar). — Mikehawk10 (talk) 04:46, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to WeatherStar#IntelliStar as was the situation prior to yesterday's rewrite. - Sumanuil (talk) 06:37, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:44, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Technology-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:44, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Obvious !vote for redirect per my redirecting comment plus the overt WP:CHANGELOG. --Izno (talk) 15:10, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, removing unsourced material. Reliable notable sources are noted in the original AfD discussion. MikeM2011 (talk) 19:18, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't think the WP:THREE "reliable sources" noted in the original AfD discussion actually do anything to establish the notability of IntelliStar separately from WeatherStar:
  1. The New Inquiry isn't the greatest website in the first place (its self-description reads as if it's a fringe left publication; it claims editorial control but it also notes that it's really churned through editors over its short 4-year lifespan). But, more relevant here: even if the site were to be reliable (for sake of argument) the particular source doesn't actually establish the notability of IntelliStar as being separate from Weatherstar. In fact, the three of the four mentions of IntelliStar in the page are of the form "WeatherStar/IntelliStar". The article dedicates a fraction of a sentence to characterize IntelliStar as the "higher-tech offspring" of WeatherStar, but this alone cannot be considered to be WP:SIGCOV of IntelliStar that would help to justify the topic being separate from WeatherStar.
  2. Regarding the source presented at USENIX 2003, the source is plainly not WP:INDEPENDENT of The Weather Channel; the paper is a conference proceeding that was produced by an employee of The Weather Channel. While it might be useful for describing what IntelliStar is, this sort of thing does not contribute to notability in any meaningful way.
  3. Regarding the [books.google.com/books?id=xgMQAQAAMAAJ book], while I can't view it myself, even the keep !voter who noted the source in the first AfD was unsure if it contributed towards WP:SIGCOV owing to how brief they described the mention as.
Taken together, I don't believe that the three sources that were mentioned in the previous AfD are enough to establish notability—and I especially think that they don't establish notability of IntelliStar as being separate from WeatherStar, the proposed redirect target. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 01:44, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 17:29, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to WeatherStar#Intellistar. Article up for deletion has plenty of fascinating material, all of which looks to be original research. Take away that, and nothing much remains that is reliably sourced.-- rsjaffe 🗩 🖉 00:33, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to WeatherStar#Intellistar. No evidence that there are enough reliable independent sources to meet GNG, and the ones mentioned in the previous AfD are insufficient per Mikehawk10. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 13:32, 22 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.