- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Bearian (talk) 02:26, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This article is an in-universe repetition of the plot of the His Dark Materials trilogy articles, which cover this in greater detail. There is no assertion of notability independent of the books themselves, so this should be deleted. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 03:16, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Completely in-universe and violation of WP:NOT#PLOT. The most this topic needs is a brief mention in the plot summaries in His Dark Materials, but that doesn't merit merging this whole article. Hersfold (t/a/c) 06:07, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Note to closing admin: If deleted, Template:His Dark Materials will need to be edited to remove the redlink. Hersfold (t/a/c) 06:07, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as I see no real world coverage for this term Corpx (talk) 08:29, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- keep A number of independent reliable sources discuss this. For example [1], and [2] links to an article in Children‘s Literature in Education which discusses this and compares it to castration. Also, the book His Dark Materials Illuminated: Critical Essays on Philip Pullman's Trilogy, which is a collection of scholarly essays on His Dark Materials has a number of essays that discuss this. There are likely more examples, I only found these from a quick set of google searches. JoshuaZ (talk) 17:41, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Random832 05:23, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- keep major plot element in very notable series, discussed in the academic literature. For even those who don't like this sort of article in general, it does meet WP:N. Corpx, do you accept that is has real world coverage? DGG (talk) 22:11, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.