Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Episcopia (3rd nomination)
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. v/r - TP 23:43, 23 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Fails WP:CRIME, insignificant gangster - DonCalo (talk) 18:17, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Episcopia does not pass WP:Crime. There is information on Episcopia in the Bonanno crime family#Former members section. --Vic49 (talk) 18:26, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. Vic49 (talk) 21:42, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Vic49 (talk) 21:42, 16 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete or redirect to Bonanno crime family#Former members. Article subject fails WP:CRIME and is not notable enough for his own article.--Slon02 (talk) 15:51, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Episcopia does not pass WP:Crime. --Cox wasan (talk) 19:48, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete If that's all there is to say about him, rub him out... Peridon (talk) 23:23, 17 September 2011 (UTC) Reinstating !vote[reply]
- Delete not notable Rogermx (talk) 23:48, 17 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. Thought it worth mentioning the article was blanked [1] before being nominated. 72.74.220.50 (talk) 06:30, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Good point. Mind you, the removal of material was in June and it's not been contested. Anyone else care to comment? Peridon (talk) 13:30, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Even if the old unreferenced information was included he still is just a minor gangster that does not meet WP:CRIME. - DonCalo (talk) 13:37, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Was it unreferenced, or was it actually referenced by the books listed? Referencing doesn't have to be from the internet. It makes our lives easier if it is available online, but there's nothing that says it must be. Peridon (talk) 17:54, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The problem with many articles on American Mafia members is that they are often very loosely base on books mentioned and have a high degree of WP:NOR. However, even if he is mentioned in those books, that still does not make him a notable gangster but rather a side figure that can be dealt with in the other articles mentioned above. - DonCalo (talk) 19:06, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Was it unreferenced, or was it actually referenced by the books listed? Referencing doesn't have to be from the internet. It makes our lives easier if it is available online, but there's nothing that says it must be. Peridon (talk) 17:54, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Even if the old unreferenced information was included he still is just a minor gangster that does not meet WP:CRIME. - DonCalo (talk) 13:37, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - Just an ordinary criminal. --Gelobet sei (talk) 18:07, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - not on the FBI 10 Most Wanted List, nor similar notoriety in the news. There are at least five people with the same name, none of whom are notable. Bearian (talk) 01:15, 20 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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