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The result was delete. Wizardman 15:17, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Jared Jeffrey (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)
Young footballer who fails WP:ATHLETE as he's never actually played in a fully professional competition. Deprodded on the basis that the Belgian season starts soon and that he might play. To me this is a WP:CRYSTAL violation. The article can be restored if/when he actually plays a match. пﮟოьεԻ 57 21:30, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. пﮟოьεԻ 57 21:30, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - indeed appears to fail that inclusive guideline WP:ATHLETE - no substantial coverage to otherwise justify inclusion under WP:N, and the article fails WP:V at the moment too. - Toon05 22:10, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Recreate if and when he mades his debut in a fully-pro competition. --Jimbo[online] 23:09, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - I am tired of all these AFD nominations of players who don't technically meet WP:ATHLETE but may meet it in a few days time. Wouldn't it make sense to simply sit on these until after the season starts in, uh, good grief, only 60 hours for this one, to see what's really going on?? In the meantime, does this player really have shirt number 3? Does that have any significance for this club? Nfitz (talk) 00:48, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- This AfD won't close for another 4 days, so if he makes an appearance he will qualify for WP:ATHLETE. - Toon05 00:55, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The way these AfDs are going, he could be named as a sub, not get in the game, and we'd still have someone trying to delete the article, because he won't be notable for another week or two. Heck, we had one AfD where the coach had made comments that a new player had been pulled from the line-up at the last minute because of immigration issues; that it had really messed up his line-up; but that the issues would be resolved in a couple of days, and we STILL had people trying to delete the article. Lots of WP:BURO issues. Nfitz (talk) 01:19, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- We are all tired of these AfDs, but it is you who is forcing them by continuously removing prods from articles which clearly fails the WP:ATHLETE critieria, e.g. Nathaniel Wedderburn who you seemed to think would be a first team player,[1] but hasn't even got a squad number (a lesson on the vagaries of British pre-season friendlies needs learning here). Perhaps if you would wait until he actually plays to deprod (the prod wouldn't have expired until Sunday), we wouldn't have to go through all this... пﮟოьεԻ 57 07:21, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Which didn't come out until the AfD process. We've had other AfDs for other prods I've removed where people hae complained they couldn't just be speedied, and it's turned out they had significant profesional experience. Given the number of poor prods, and prods of players that may be about to play, the AfDs are necessary. Better we do 100 AfDs and delete, than remove a player using prod without thinking about it in detail (though we are closer to 3:1 than 100:1 in these lately).
- Now back to the question. What does shirt number 3 mean on this team? For some teams, that's highly significant. Nfitz (talk) 06:04, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- We are all tired of these AfDs, but it is you who is forcing them by continuously removing prods from articles which clearly fails the WP:ATHLETE critieria, e.g. Nathaniel Wedderburn who you seemed to think would be a first team player,[1] but hasn't even got a squad number (a lesson on the vagaries of British pre-season friendlies needs learning here). Perhaps if you would wait until he actually plays to deprod (the prod wouldn't have expired until Sunday), we wouldn't have to go through all this... пﮟოьεԻ 57 07:21, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The way these AfDs are going, he could be named as a sub, not get in the game, and we'd still have someone trying to delete the article, because he won't be notable for another week or two. Heck, we had one AfD where the coach had made comments that a new player had been pulled from the line-up at the last minute because of immigration issues; that it had really messed up his line-up; but that the issues would be resolved in a couple of days, and we STILL had people trying to delete the article. Lots of WP:BURO issues. Nfitz (talk) 01:19, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete without prejudice. Does not meet WP:ATHLETE right now, but perhaps he will at a later date. JBsupreme (talk) 06:35, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. GiantSnowman 12:33, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Userfy somewhere Almost certainly will pass WP:ATHLETE within the next month or two, so should be moved into a volunteer's user space pending this. Brilliantine (talk) 01:11, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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