Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Justin Elicker

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The result was delete. Yunshui ^雲 _水 10:15, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Justin Elicker

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Fails NPOL criteria #1 for being the elected mayor of a small city. Fails criteria #2 given he has not received significant press coverage beyond local media, such as the New Haven Register and Hartford Courant, which by the way looks like ordinary campaign coverage. PK650 (talk) 05:32, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. PK650 (talk) 05:32, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSA^talk 05:51, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Connecticut-related deletion discussions. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSA^talk 05:51, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. To be far, New Haven isn't exactly a small city — its population surpasses 100K, which is more than large enough that he would be accepted as notable if the article were actually meeting our requirements. But even in cities that size, mayors still aren't deemed "inherently" notable just because they exist: getting them over WP:NPOL #2 is a matter of writing a substantive article about their political importance, referenced to significant press coverage above and beyond just routine verification of his vote totals. But this basically just states that he exists, documents a bit of background information about his educational history without saying anything about his political career, and cites just two pieces of routine local coverage about his placements in election primaries and his own self-published campaign website. This is not how you demonstrate that a mayor is notable enough for inclusion — even in larger cities, an article about a mayor has to be substantive and well-referenced, not just verify that he exists, to be includable. Bearcat (talk) 15:34, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

NPOL clearly states: "Politicians and judges who have held international, national, or sub-national (e.g., province- or state-wide) office". Mayorship is not within those parameters, therefore we must look to criterion #2, i.e. "significant press coverage" for other politicians, which he has not. Size of the city does not matter per the above. I think we are in agreement. Buttigieg would be a good example of a notable mayor. PK650 (talk) 23:31, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Except Buttigieg is notable for being a presidential candidate, not for being a mayor. Someone like Mike Duggan is a notable mayor.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:12, 22 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree entirely. A simple custom-range Google search shows how he had extensive coverage prior to his announcement, due in part to his sexuality and also to his workings within the Democratic Party (running for DNC chair). Then again, of the dozens of presidential candidates every election (other parties and independents), only a handful are notable. Perhaps I should've clarified he would be a "good example of a notable mayor before his presidential run". Best, PK650 (talk) 00:19, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete not enough coverage to pass inclusion guidelines.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:13, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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