Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/KLM Flight 1204

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:02, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

KLM Flight 1204

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WP:NOTNEWS. Point 4 of WP:EVENTCRITERIA - Routine kinds of news events (including most accidents) – whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable. This is a forgettable incident that only has article because it happened on the same day as Jeju Air Flight 2216 and PAL Airlines Flight 2259. Zaptain United (talk) 03:05, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I actually wanted to keep this article at first but then I realized that it was a minor incident with no sustain coverage passed the initial reporting. When the preliminary report came out, there was basically no reporting of it. That honestly shows that no news website is willing to report on a minor incident. It shows that even when the final report comes out, there will be no coverage of it. This clearly only got a Wikipedia article because it conveniently happened at the same time as a major crash and a minor accident. I am not against redirecting it, but it is clearly not notable enough for a Wikipedia article. Zaptain United (talk) 03:13, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events, Aviation, and Norway. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:48, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Extent of retrospective coverage is this article in es:Estadio Deportivo and this in The Express Tribune, neither providing analysis but simply listing them as happening among other airline incidents of December 2024. Rollinginhisgrave (talk | contributions) 05:50, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete due to minimal impact and reporting. I will add a sentence at 2024 in Norway. Geschichte (talk) 10:12, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No indications of ongoing or lasting coverage that would lend notability, and does not fit the guidelines at WP:AIRCRASH for inclusion in Accidents and incidents sections. Redirect to Sandefjord Airport, Torp#Accidents and incidents. Coverage there is sufficient, there are no indications of ongoing coverage that would lend notability to this incident. nf utvol (talk) 12:55, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I question whether it even warrants a mention there. Geschichte (talk) 14:26, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think you're right here...took a second look at WP:AIRCRASH, which I hadn't reviewed in a long time, and it doesn't fit the criteria there. Might be worth having a discussion as to whether or not those criteria are too tight, but until it changes it is what it is. nf utvol (talk) 15:39, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The author here, and OK, I think this is really a small incident that didn't need to be a Wikipedia article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ohok12 (talk • contribs) 14:57, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
However, at least, can it be a draft? Ohok12 — Preceding undated comment added 15:33, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, here is the original author of this page

Yes, I agree this is just a small incident, but being more recognised due to its date occured

However, can it atleast be a draft? Ohok12 (talk) 16:41, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If it were to become a draft, that would indicate that it has potential to be a future Wikipedia article. What do you think indicates such potential? Geschichte (talk) 17:00, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, if that was the meaning of being a draft then ok, I think just delete it. Ohok12 (talk) 17:11, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Now, I don't think it will make an impact on the media when it comes to the report though being upgraded to serious incident. However, after thinking again, I think its potential of recognition seems to be likely, so I think it should be a draft Ohok12 (talk) 08:25, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: run-of-the-mill minor incident, with no continuing coverage beyond the initial news cycle. Rosbif73 (talk) 09:06, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In reality, it has upgraded to serious incident (on 18th March 2025), but still considered as unnoticeable due to lack of coverage. I still respect your point and that's the fact. There are many crashes that I think not even being mentioned in the media, but still having a page for it. Ohok12 (talk) 09:15, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect - restore original redirect to List of KLM accidents and incidents § Notable incidents without fatalities. I agree with other participants' arguments that the incident probably doesn't merit an article in its own right. Cheers, SunloungerFrog (talk) 09:23, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ok then, I have no issue with it Ohok12 (talk) 10:48, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
With this condition, this article will likely be deleted in the coming days. I also understand why this article was nominated for deletion and have more understanding of Wikipedia rules and the function of "draft". I apologize if this has caused any impact on the Wikipedia community, as I have only known these things for a short time. At the same time, I also thank those who have contributed to my articles in the past. I will now convert it to a draft (because I want it to at least reflect my efforts) before this is deleted. Once again, thank you for everyone's contributions to this article.Ohok12 (talk) 15:26, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No draft, please. I explained above what drafts are for. Geschichte (talk) 10:49, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No injuries, not even a scratch, no notability Metallurgist (talk) 21:29, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Late vote as there were some circumstances that took place during this AfD which prevented me from voting sooner. This incident appears to be a straightforward emergency landing of an aircraft. Not notable enough, in my opinion, for an article of its own. 11WB (talk) 05:53, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Sandefjord Airport, Torp#Accidents and incidents, where this is covered, as is appropriate for incidents of this notability level. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 08:15, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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