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The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn; article can be merged appropriately. NW (Talk) 20:10, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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This is an article about a soldier who was convicted for hitting an Afghan in 2005. This was an isolated incident that involved two soldiers. This, in my opinion, falls under the BLP1Event issue and should either be changed to make it about the incident or deleted altogether. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 04:14, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep/rename, while "accusations of assault" aren't typically fitting for a bio, convictions for a soldier beating a POW are sufficiently rare to be noteworthy...but I can't see any real harm in changing the article to be about the incident itself; since I'd rather see context added about where it occurred, which other officers were present or which prisoners were beaten, than which school Myricks attended, whether he's married and if he has ankle cancer. Sherurcij (speaker for the dead) 04:27, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- There is another soldier who was also convicted of this very same incident, so that is why I suggested this should be about an incident rather than about the person. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 04:38, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The incident merits an article -- This nomination calls the incident an "isolated incident". For "isolated incident" I encourage people to regard this as an "exceptional incident". Brigadier General David R. Irvine, a law professor and specialist in legitimate interrogration techniques, did regard the incident as notable, because of its exceptional nature. General Irvine noted, Lewis Welshofer, who actually suffocated a guy, by stuffing him headfirst in a sleep bag, binding up the bag, and then sitting on his chest, even though almost all his ribs had been broken earlier in his interrogation, only received a month's pay docked, and a month's confinement to quarters, when he was off duty. Welshofer's trial was also exceptional, because most of the (limited number) of similar incidents never got to trial. I agree that the original beatings, and the convictions could be seen as a single incident. I have found no coverage of either soldier, after the incident. But, the incident itself merits coverage, because the GIs who were involved in similar incidents -- or much worse incidents, who weren't court-martialed, considerably outnumbers the number of GIs who were charged. It merits coverage because this is not a local incident. It received coverage in newspapers around the world, in addition to scholarly comments like General Irvine's. It seems to me that not covering this incident would be a serious lapse from neutrality. Geo Swan (talk) 05:22, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The incident will be covered, but the focus will be less specifically on this soldier and more on the whole acts by all of the soldiers and officers involved. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 05:29, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge to some collection of such incidents, if one exists. If not, consider creating such a list, or delete per WP:BLP1E. His notability stems entirely from one event, which is news and only attains significance against the backdrop of multiple such events in the ongoing wars. RayTalk 09:46, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:48, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:48, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Call for a speedy close -- everyone, so far, including the nominator, has called for a merge to an article about the incident. Geo Swan (talk) 19:42, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I agree to that. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 20:08, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.