Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Know-It-All Tour

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The result was delete. czar 07:35, 21 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Know-It-All Tour

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Not notable theatre tour by an artist who has only released one album. As it stands the page fails the notability guideline of WP:CONCERT entirely Karst (talk) 07:48, 7 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Having released more than one album isn't notability criteria listed in the WP:CONCERT or WP:GNG notability guidelines. Several of her shows on the tour are already sold out and her (yes) one album (released at age 19) w/ multiple top singles is making chart history. 1 The tour begins the 15th of January. Article could use expansion and improved references per WP:ATD (not deletion). Hmlarson (talk) 20:59, 7 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:19, 8 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:19, 8 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:19, 8 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A concert tour does not get an automatic presumption of notability just because it exists. The notability standard for concert tours specifies that reliable source coverage "show notability in terms of artistic approach, financial success, relationship to audience, or other such terms," and that "sources which merely establish that a tour happened are not sufficient to demonstrate notability. Tours which cannot be sufficiently referenced in 3rd party sources should be covered in a section on the artist's page rather than creating a dedicated article." In other words, they're not a topic for which you get to start an article as soon as the tour is announced as happening, and then wait for the WP:GNG to maybe show up down the line; they're a topic for which the sourcing and substance has to already be present in the article the moment you hit save the first time. This is parked on just two sources, one of which is her own website (a primary source which cannot confer notability on anything by itself) and the other is an unreliable blog — and the only substance here is a list of the tour venues. None of this suggests the need for a standalone article about the tour yet; while that might become appropriate in the future, as things stand today all that's needed now is one or two sentences about the tour in Alessia Cara's main BLP. Delete, without prejudice against recreation in the future if and when it can be reliably sourced as actually passing the standards that permit a standalone article about a concert tour as a separate topic from the artist herself. Bearcat (talk) 20:59, 8 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Rcsprinter¹²³ (say) 20:19, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, a first tour to support a debut album? It seems to be WP:TOOSOON to determine notability for this. PK T(alk) 15:43, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —UY Scuti ^Talk 19:18, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Tour's subject only has one Billboard chart at this point; right now this is the usual small-venue tour for artists at this level. Nate • (chatter) 23:06, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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