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The result was redirect to 2002 Dutch general election. As indicated in this discussion, some merging has already taken place, and more can continue if need be. (non-admin closure) Left guide (talk) 19:31, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
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He has never been a MP (see here and here). His refusal to become a MP is best discussed on 2002 Dutch general election. @Koopinator:, perhaps you can do this as you are working on that page? Dajasj (talk) 19:44, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians and Netherlands. Dajasj (talk) 19:44, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Comment according to the May 18 article Simon (2002), Guerts resigned on May 17, two days after the election. While this means he never took office (as noted by the May 23 swearing-in rolls linked in the nomination), this feels like an odd edge case for WP:NPOL which presumes notability for "people who have been elected to such offices but have not yet assumed them". Not taking office in national legislatures does not seem to automatically revoke notability, given the existence of the list article List of members-elect of the United States House of Representatives who never took their seats. Since this seems to be a party-list system maybe we could say this rule doesn't apply if his name wasn't on ballots and he wasn't elected as an individual? Still, an MP who was duly elected and resigned after a scandal seems like it's just on the edge of notability. Dan Leonard (talk • contribs) 20:39, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Comment. This Guardian article makes it seem like he was sworn into office. It refers to him as an MP. If he was actually sworn in, he's technically notable under WP:NPOL. If he was not sworn in, then I think the determination that elects might not be notable under WP:NOPAGE considerations could apply if the lack of sourcing I see on Google is any indication. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dawn Evans.--Mpen320 (talk)
- Some of the Dutch references also make it seem like he was already an MP, but it appears to be a simplification (he was likely to be MP). There are also sources he refused his appointment and he shows up in no list of MPs. Dajasj (talk) 07:29, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
- "His refusal to become a MP is best discussed on 2002 Dutch general election. @Koopinator:, perhaps you can do this as you are working on that page?"
- Sure, I'll get to it in a few hours. I will condone merge to 2002 Dutch general election if only for the page's small size. Koopinator (talk) 06:21, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
- I added 2 sentences about Guerts to 2002 Dutch general election#LPF internal conflicts (May–October 2002). We can now redirect this page. Koopinator (talk) 14:48, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
- I agree with the merger into 2002 Dutch general election. Although it is an interesting case, LexisNexis is not showing any coverage of this person outside of the span of a few days in which he was elected and declined his seat. Since MPs take office several weeks after the election, Geurts was never sworn in. - Tristan Surtel (talk) 16:51, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to 2002 Dutch general election per BLP1E, after carefully checking Delpher. We know a bit about Geurts' other political activities, from which he also resigned, sometimes already had resigned, that he may have studied toward the degree he had claimed, and that he disengaged with his party when the news was made public. The LPF also read about their MP elect via the news. Importantly, there is no currently detectable previous or later coverage under the same name in the press. All we know about this person was around this single event. gidonb (talk) 13:39, 7 August 2025 (UTC)
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