- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. —Tom Morris (talk) 22:55, 25 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Libby Roderick (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log • Stats)
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Contested proposed deletion. The person contesting it stated they are "probably notable" based on what looks to me like two extremely weak sources, see the talk page for links to those, such as they are. One is a review of a book she edited and the other is basically a blank page with her name on it I originally looked at that with my iPad, which doesn't do flash video. Turns out it is a video of her speaking. In the first two minutes or so if you actually watch it, Ms. Roderick comments on why she is using a microphone to speak to such a small group in a small room, so how the conclusion was reached that these links indicate notability is a bit hard to understand. Looks more to me like "probably not particularly notable" if that's all we can come up with. My own search didn't find much in the way of actual useful reliable sources either. There may be a case for her song " How Could Anyone" being notable unto itself, but It seems the song is more welll known than the person who wrote it. The label releasing all her recordings[1] appears to be a niche lable with very limited distribution. Beeblebrox (talk) 15:33, 12 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, →Bmusician 03:22, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep iTunes sells songs from 3 of her albums (28 songs total), which were put out by Turtle Island Records. I believe that makes her notable per WP:MUSBIO: Has released two or more albums on a major label or on one of the more important indie labels. NJ Wine (talk) 04:51, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Just so we're clear, are you saying that the mere presence of the releases on iTunes indicates that the record label qualifies as "one of the more important indie labels"? Beeblebrox (talk) 16:58, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. The subject may be notable for something (perhaps for music and perhaps not), but having her music available on iTunes is not going to affect her notability either way. One would have to establish that Turtle Island Records was an important indie label to qualify her under the criterion cited by User:NJ Wine. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 17:09, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 22:51, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
*Delete. Aside from their own website, there's little to be found regarding "Turtle Island Records". It appears to be a mom-and-pop-shop rather any sort of "label". The fact that nobody has been able to find sources beyond Roderick's own website and her myspace page (both of which seem to exist to sell her recordings) speaks strongly to non-notability. Agricola44 (talk) 15:02, 21 May 2012 (UTC).[reply]
- Keep per Whpq's findings...bravo. Agricola44 (talk) 18:39, 23 May 2012 (UTC).[reply]
Delete. Contesting the PROD was fine because there is an assertion of notability, but Turtle Island Records does not seem like an actual publishing label and getting onto iTunes is not a criteria of quality/notability. -- Michael Scott Cuthbert (talk) 20:35, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep -- thanks Whpq -- Michael Scott Cuthbert (talk) 04:14, 25 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - Note that several reliable sources have been added to the article that establish this topic's notability. Northamerica1000(talk) 18:48, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - Having one's songs available on iTunes absolutely does not establish notability, nor do I think that Turtle Island Records qualifies as a major indie label. However, Roderick has received coverage in newspapers all across the USA" Corvallis Gazette-Times, Worcester Telegram-Gazette, Sun Journal, Anchorage Daily News, Idaho Spokesman-Review, and the absolute clincher for me, LA Times. Maine Today also confirms that she was filmed for a segment on Anderson Cooper 360°. -- Whpq (talk) 17:11, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - The topic passes WP:GNG per: [2], [3], [4], [5], [6] (subscription required), [7] (subscription required). Northamerica1000(talk) 18:35, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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