Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Yuuzhan Vong

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. W.marsh 15:43, 12 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of Yuuzhan Vong

Subject lacks real world notability, there are no secondary sources to meet WP:FICT. I doubt this is even notable in the Star Wars universe. Additionally, It has been unsourced for over a year. It also fails WP:NOT#PLOT due to excessive plot information in lieu of a real world context. Pilotbob 05:28, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science fiction-related deletions. -- Pilotbob 05:28, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This should probably be bundled with the nomination below for List of minor Star Wars Jedi knights. —Disavian (^talk/_contribs) 05:29, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I am against bundling because I believe that articles should stand on their own merit. The community consensus on that AFD may be different on this topic than others. It becomes confusing to throw things together. Pilotbob 05:45, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep It's a stand-alone list for topics that aren't notable by themselves but warrant listing as part of a larger topic. Cleanup, not deletion, is the answer. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 07:32, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as there is no sober arguement for keeping this plot summmary. Firstly this article is written from a heavy in universe perspective which is devoid of real-world context or analysis. Secondly, there are no primary sources to verify the content is not original research. Lastly, there are no reliable secondary sources to demonstrate that these fictional characters have any real-world notability. The article provides a link to starwars.com, which is where this material needs to go. --Gavin Collins 11:33, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Not getting involved in this debate except to point out that the primary source(s) is mentioned in the lead sentence: "This is a listing of Yuuzhan Vong characters in the New Jedi Order series of Expanded Universe novels from the fictional Star Wars universe" (emphasis mine). The question of whether each individual entry needs a reference is a question I'd leave up to other editors to hash out, although I'd not seen such in other lists I've come across in Wikipedia (eg. List of characters from The Sopranos). -- GJD (Talk to me|Damage I've done) 15:12, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep It boils down to this: If Yuuzhan Vong is a valid article (and I would say that it is), then a List of Yuuzhan Vong is a legitimate content fork. -Chunky Rice 23:20, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.