Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of ZIP Codes in Oklahoma

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was close this debate, and begin discussion on what to do with similiar articles. AfD is probably not the place for this discussion.. If you have any questions, please contact me at my talk page. Ian Manka 06:46, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of ZIP Codes in Oklahoma

Wikipedia is not a directory. This article, however, is a directory. Guy (Help!) 12:58, 4 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Unfortunately, you've failed to make clear that List of ZIP codes in the United States exists, and shows, well, that every state and territory in the US has such a page. Not to mention Lists of postal codes shows that numerous other countries have such lists as well. As such, this discussion is not about this page, but the subject itself. I would suggest closing this, and getting feedback elsewhere first. FrozenPurpleCube 14:28, 4 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - on its own merits I would hastily !vote to delete this any day of the week, but FrozenPurpleCube brings up salient points. Articles of this nature exist for every US state, and similarly themed articles for many other places in the world. Bringing them up individually for deletion (or even as a massive bundled AfD) is not likely the most appropriate method of dealing with the issue, a more comprehensive request for feedback regarding postal code lists is probably warranted. Arkyan  ^(talk) 16:03, 4 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Close and Umbrella Nom all entries in Category:ZIP codes of the United States by state --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 18:12, 4 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Close per User:After Midnight. Oh, my dear God, this is a horrific violation of WP:LIST, and doesn't do the job that the US Postal Service can do on their website. --Dennisthe2 18:57, 4 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep useful information. We have lots of lists of places, people, and other things that someone using an encyclopedia would find informative. Carlossuarez46 20:40, 4 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Might want to look at WP:USEFUL for a good explanation as to our wishes to delete this then, Carlos. Besides, like I said, the US Postal Service does a much better job of cataloging this. --Dennisthe2 21:16, 4 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Parent category/list needs addressing and independent discussion first. As for usefulness, arguments could be made for anything from lists of lakes to lists of mammals, &etc which likely have far more thorough treatments in places outside Wikipedia. I think the 'usefulness here vs Post Office' argument is non sequitur. The point on usefulness in general here is taken, albeit based on the above essay. Look forward to discussing the parent. --Keefer4 | Talk 10:09, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, here's my thought. The zip code lists, while certainly maintainable (they really don't change that much), run afoul of not only WP:LIST, but there's the WP:NOT factor (indiscriminate information), combined with the fact that, like I note, the USPS can do this much better. I find this fascinating as anything, but I can't pull the WP:ILIKEIT card to keep. The parent article, however, is overburdened a bit, if only for the links - it is in my opinion a fine listing of how the ZIP Code system is laid out here in the US of A without the overburdening of a list of every single zip code in the United States of America]]. (Granted, I don't know if this will survive either.) This is, in my opinion, something that is more suitable to a more static web page someplace - as I note, ZIP codes don't change that often, and while it's interesting, it is still something that runs afoul of the list factor. Heck, once my server is up, I would probably run it. =^_^= --Dennis The Tiger (Rawr and stuff) 03:26, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: As mentioned above, the parent category with all 52 lists needs to be discussed. How many people are going to come to Wikipedia looking for ZIP codes? The Postal Service web site is a more reliable source of that information. I'd recommend deleting all of the lists. --Elkman ^(Elkspeak) 15:00, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.