Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Liverpool Students' Union (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Yamamoto Ichiro 会話 00:58, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Liverpool Students' Union (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)

For a simple reason, this article serves a purpose to promote the student union and nothing else. Also, god knows if individual student unions are notable in its own right, hence not notable at all, therefore fails WP:N, this is why this is nominated. Also I wish people don't come here and write as if they are writing a holiday brochure. Knock-Off Nigel (talk) 23:21, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Not notable. Basketball110 _{what famous people say} ♣ 23:22, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - SUs are not inheritently notable, and this one fails to assert notability through external sources etc. _TalkIslander 23:24, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge into Liverpool John Moores University else Delete per nom & discussion. --Tagishsimon (talk) 23:38, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, Almost all colleges have a student union. Unless it has some kind of special history or architecture or something, it is not notable. Paddy Simcox (talk) 23:57, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep major functional division of universities. almost qall colleges have one, and the ones at the more important colleges and universities are separately notable. DGG (talk) 03:13, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment, how can this SU be notable when all universities have a SU and does that make every SU notable. Knock-Off Nigel (talk) 23:44, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per DGG. GreenJoe 14:04, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge any relevant content to the university's page, student unions are not inherently notable and it's the rare one (not this one) that has any external notability. See also WP:CORP's Organizations whose activities are local in scope are usually not notable unless verifiable information from reliable independent sources can be found. TRAVELLINGCARI^{My story}_{Tell me yours} 18:36, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge into existing university article. SMC (talk) 21:10, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - winner of 'Best Bar None Awards'. And as in the previous AfD, the argument that a University serves a purly local group is false and compleatly ignores the notable topic of Student exchange programs in most (if not all) Universities. Exit2DOS2000^•T•C• 10:10, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment, are you attempting to say that every bar thart won this award should get their own article, my reply is no, not at all as it will clutter this article. Also this student exchange thing only applies to universities, not SUs. Knock-Off Nigel (talk) 15:46, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• The Bar did not win this award, The SU did. That is notable. Are Exchange students barred from joining the SU? Exit2DOS2000^•T•C• 03:08, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Is this what I call international fame, ha ha ha, don't make me laugh! Knock-Off Nigel (talk) 11:31, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Why must it be international? Where is that stipulated? Exit2DOS2000^•T•C• 07:42, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per Knock-Off. Mr McLovin (talk) 14:46, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per DGG TorstenGuise (talk) 19:27, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per DGG - needs work but then most articles do. Keith D (talk) 20:28, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Ongoing discussion on notability of student unions/student governments on TF:SA and WP:UNI. This article should not be deleted (along with all the other student union articles on AfD at the moment until clear guidelines on student unions may be reached. WP:NOT#Wikipedia does not have a deadline. Also note possible proposal of WikiProject Students' Unions, which is in the WPCouncil at the moment. The supporters of the project believes that all students unions have inherit notability regardless of sufficient coverage using standard WP:ORG. - Jameson L. Tai ^{talk ♦ contribs} 11:14, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - reasons as Loughborough. I suspect that the reference to Liverpool John Moores University is to the wrong institution and is certainly wrong. Peterkingiron (talk) 01:02, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per DGG and nom. By the way, the reference to Liverpool John Moores University is correct. The union of the University of Liverpool is the Liverpool Guild of Students. Andy (talk) 02:13, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per DGG. Also British Student Unions are bound to be notable just by the size of their membership, the range of other clubs and societies they sponsor and the total size of their budget. They just need references to be found. --Bduke (talk) 10:25, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per WP:ORG. Thousands of members for dozens of years. Mostlyharmless (talk) 07:22, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ➨ REDVEЯS dreamt about you last night 22:51, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.