- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was already deleted. — JIP | Talk 05:09, 10 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Admitted non-notable band: "Lost In Fusion a band that began in the summer of 2005 ,Compose just by 2 guys at the moment" 202.156.6.59 20:30, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Speed deleted: band vanity with no claim or evidence of notability. Wile E. Heresiarch 20:50, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Please don't speedy things which don't fit the criteria. Kappa 00:19, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Of course, I did no such thing. The article fell in CSD category A7, An article about a real person that does not assert that person's importance or significance. Please don't waste other people's time. Wile E. Heresiarch 03:16, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Please don't speedy things which don't fit the criteria. Kappa 00:19, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- The band failed to pass WP:MUSIC and thus should be deleted, but A7 specifically does not apply for bands. The band CSD proposal failed, altbeit slimly (see the poll). The speedy deletion was a mistake, and therefore Wile E. Heresiarch's asserion that Kappa is wasting people's time is completely unjustified. Sjakkalle (Check!) 08:44, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion says nothing about an exception in A7 for bands. Neither does Wikipedia:Deletion of vanity articles. Whatever the poll was about, it didn't change the stated policy. Wile E. Heresiarch 16:19, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. Sjakkalle is correct. CSD A7 applies specifically and only to articles on individual persons whose notability was not asserted in the article. If this page was indeed speedily deleted under the impression that CSD A7 was applicable to it, it was improperly deleted. I hope, Wile E. Heresiarch, that you would consider restoring it for the duration of the AfD, failing which it shall be nominated for undeletion at VFU.—encephalon 10:56, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. Just to clarify: As Wile E. Heresiarch himself writes above, the wording of A7 specifically states that it covers articles about "a real person". Since general consensus seems to be to interpret speedy deletion criteria rather strictly, the use of singular is generally taken to mean that it covers articles about one and only one person, not bands, clubs or any similar groups. I don't doubt that the band was non-notable, but since speedying can be rather controversial, and once done also non-transparent to the ordinary user, what we need isn't rules-stretching, but better (i.e. wider, but specific and unambiguous) criteria. / Alarm 12:43, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.