Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MAD Foundation

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. No independent sources have been presented at all. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 05:50, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

MAD Foundation

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Blatant primary sourced promotion of a non notable organisation Theroadislong (talk) 08:03, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Health and fitness, Medicine, and Australia. Theroadislong (talk) 08:03, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Theroadislong, hope you're doing well. Just trying to figure out what is in question here - I've offered a discussion on the talkspace in the article and on your profile! I see you've written this as "blatant" and "non notable" - I have been one of the editors who has done some drafting and researching, so grateful for some further detail here. Cheers and happy to chat any time :) CommandAShepard (talk) 08:09, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There are zero independent sources, (which is what we base articles on). You removed my maintenance tags so I bought it here for the community to discuss. Theroadislong (talk) 08:18, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Theroadislong! In the first instance, created a section on the article's talkspace for wider discussion of the maintenance tags, which I expected would be the place to discuss this? I am still an early Wikipedian! Happy to also have a discussion on the sources, which were a mix of primary (for official statements/figures) and secondary sources. Thanks :) CommandAShepard (talk) 08:25, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Starting a thread as to whether this article belongs article instead as a stub according to Wikipedia's editing policy and whether anyone has any insights. Cheers :) CommandAShepard (talk) 08:34, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The sources cited provide nothing by way of evidence of notability, and a search (both by 'MAD' and 'Make a Difference') only finds more primary sources. There is some coverage in secondary channels, but it is of the type typical to charity campaigning, which inevitably always traces back to the subject's own PR function. As it stands, falls short of WP:GNG / WP:ORG by a country mile. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:09, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep As one of the drafters, I can very much resonate with the notability argument. I found several secondary channels which report on the source, so I would be interested in improving on the base of the article to determine other notable and sources. Whether this means it should go back to draft or AfC, I would be keen to see the community advice. Thanks! CommandAShepard (talk) 09:22, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You have a week (possibly more, but don't count on it) to improve the article before this discussion closes. If you can find sources which meet the WP:GNG standard, you're very welcome to add them, in which case you may ping me and I'll happily review and possibly reconsider my earlier !vote.

Do not move this back to drafts, though, during an open AfD discussion, as that causes all sorts of problems. The time for that would have been when this was in the draft space, that is before you moved it out of there. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:41, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks @DoubleGrazing, just left a reply to your other post (on my talk page). Cheers CommandAShepard (talk) 04:12, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Disability and Organizations. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 20:34, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, no secondary sources that I can find meet WP:SIRS. Bobby Cohn 🍁 (talk) 14:58, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: Same as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MAD Foundation (Australia) which had involved a COI sock. —CX Zoom[he/him] ^{(let's talk • {C•X})} 04:56, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete previously deleted and lacking third party coverage. LibStar (talk) 09:52, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: Edits since the beginning of this AfD discussion include removing secondary sources with perceived connection to the source, addition of in-text statements for any use of primary sources or potentially connected secondary sources, clarifying external reporting through independent, secondary sources such as news media and other online media reporting.

Pending review by another editor (DoubleGrazing) in this discussion, draftspace may be appropriate and submission through AFC process. CommandAShepard (talk) 12:51, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.