Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MacAmp (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Tim Song (talk) 00:19, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable and long-time orphan that is completely unsourced. Some trivial mentions in Macintosh related books, and kept around as a sentimental download on several sites, but no significant coverage from looking at the first 50 results from news.google.com (set to pre-y2k archive search), books.google.com and scholar.google.com. Miami33139 (talk) 17:17, 8 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - nothing has changed since the first AfD. Apparently the software represented an important "first" in MP3 decoding software applications. Racepacket (talk) 21:46, 8 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Then why aren't there independent, reliable sources about the subject as references? Importance is a reflection of a subjects coverage outside Wikipedia. These two sentences could easily be placed in the WinAmp article under the section of historic or derivative works. I thought of this after nominating, and may withdraw the AfD if others agree this is an acceptable solution. Miami33139 (talk) 16:51, 9 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Given the scope of the article and that no new information appears to be forthcoming, a logical outcome may well be to merge this information somewhere appropriate. Shereth 19:06, 9 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Tim Song (talk) 00:22, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• • In reply to Shereth, I have moved any relevant information to the Winamp article as a historical and related work. MacAmp was done before Nullsoft actually existed, but that's why there is a historical work section. Miami33139 (talk) 05:38, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 21:56, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. From the looks of it, this article should had been deleted the first time around. It got a free pass then and still has yet to be adequately sourced! Fails in notability. JBsupreme (talk) 23:06, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep in light of changes make by Milowent. This has nothing to do with IRC at all, by the way. P.S. should this be renamed MACAST? JBsupreme (talk) 22:31, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Yeah, I realize this one isn't about IRC. I appreciate the reconsideration, JB. I think the name should stick for now, I have to go through some other sources, but it appears they returned to the original name later on.--Milowent (talk) 22:35, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep the present article seems adequately sourced for notability. (I note that in the previous afd, started by a different ed, he stated right out front that the motivation was a content dispute about priority; fortunately, that is no longer the issue. ) DGG ( talk ) 00:47, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: Bad nom. I just added 11 references to the article, and there are more. There is No explanation for why consensus has changed from first AfD, and keep per DGG's comment there.--Milowent (talk) 19:50, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.