Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Magic cross piercing
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The result was delete. ✗plicit 14:22, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
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Completely unsourced. Was not able to find any significant coverage about the topic in reliable sources. Hemiauchenia (talk) 14:09, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- The website that has been added as a source "Londonspeak.co.uk" appears to be a low quality (possibly AI) content farm, just look at the homepage [1]. I do not think this counts as significant coverage. Hemiauchenia (talk) 18:39, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- There is the German source that looks reliable, and claims to work with real businesses. About loudspeak: I am not too familiar with such content farms you are talking about, so it may be that. you can remove the content if there is a strong basis NorthernWinds (talk) 19:53, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Hemiauchenia I have found a few other sources [2][3]. They do sell services though, so I am not sure how useful they are to us NorthernWinds (talk) 20:18, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- These were cited in the italian wiki [4][5] NorthernWinds (talk) 20:22, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Hemiauchenia I have found a few other sources [2][3]. They do sell services though, so I am not sure how useful they are to us NorthernWinds (talk) 20:18, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- There is the German source that looks reliable, and claims to work with real businesses. About loudspeak: I am not too familiar with such content farms you are talking about, so it may be that. you can remove the content if there is a strong basis NorthernWinds (talk) 19:53, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- The website that has been added as a source "Londonspeak.co.uk" appears to be a low quality (possibly AI) content farm, just look at the homepage [1]. I do not think this counts as significant coverage. Hemiauchenia (talk) 18:39, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fashion, Popular culture, and Sexuality and gender. Hemiauchenia (talk) 14:09, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- I've removed the Londonspeak source - this is very clearly an SEO content farm. Please see the discussion at WP:RSN if you need more detail. Sam Kuru (talk) 18:39, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - WP:DICTIONARY - No sourcing. Only a definition of the term, and a link to another Wikipedia article about an online magazine. — Maile (talk) 15:24, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Is this an accurate view count? I'd say 86k views is a rather high-traffic page. Regardless, delete - as OP stated, no sources. cheesewhisk3rs (pester) 22:34, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- It does seem to be a real Google trend [6], but it's actual source is a mystery to me. Maybe TikTok? Hemiauchenia (talk) 22:38, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, TikTok does seem to be the most likely source [7] Hemiauchenia (talk) 22:39, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, it’s from TikTok, I provided an explanation on on the talk page. twisted. (user | talk | contribs) 04:49, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you, that explains it. --cheesewhisk3rs (pester) 10:04, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, it’s from TikTok, I provided an explanation on on the talk page. twisted. (user | talk | contribs) 04:49, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, TikTok does seem to be the most likely source [7] Hemiauchenia (talk) 22:39, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- It does seem to be a real Google trend [6], but it's actual source is a mystery to me. Maybe TikTok? Hemiauchenia (talk) 22:38, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Yeah it has also been botted and the Wikipedia widget now shows the image in the article on peoples phone screens possible WP:Speedy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jabba550 (talk • contribs) 10:49, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- The article view are unlikely to be botted, from my view. It's a social media (mostly just TikTok to search it up, and again, as the first image is a penis – y'know. I think this has to contribute to the insane amount of views for this article. Not saying this changes much but, I think it's an important thing to add. twisted. (user | talk | contribs) 11:59, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- Merge with Genital piercing#Types of genital piercings if there are any reliable sources about this, Delete if not. KnowDeath (talk) 12:25, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: Note that there is likely Reddit canvassing to this. Can link if needed. EF5 12:55, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- There's enough traffic to the article from TikTok and now being on the Wikipedia trending tab that telling the effects of Reddit posts (which from what I can tell, seem to be complaints about this article being featured on the Wikipedia app due to its viral popularity rather than canvassing per se) is going to be difficult. Hemiauchenia (talk) 13:09, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- That’s true. The post I specifically saw said something along the lines of “hopefully it’ll be deleted (permanently)” which comes off as a “come vote delete” sentence. EF5 13:15, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- I think I am the author of that post, and no, I am not encouraging people to come vote delete. If I could edit the post to remove that sentence I would. My apologies. Juli3nD (talk) 14:58, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- I deleted that post Juli3nD (talk) 15:06, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think anybody here came from reddit KnowDeath (talk) 19:31, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- KnowDeath, the point was that people could come. Regardless, I'm going to AGF that the post was indeed deleted and my comment can for the most part be rendered moot, although given the controversial nature I'd keep the {{notavote}} template at the top. — EF5 19:39, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- I think I am the author of that post, and no, I am not encouraging people to come vote delete. If I could edit the post to remove that sentence I would. My apologies. Juli3nD (talk) 14:58, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- That’s true. The post I specifically saw said something along the lines of “hopefully it’ll be deleted (permanently)” which comes off as a “come vote delete” sentence. EF5 13:15, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- There's enough traffic to the article from TikTok and now being on the Wikipedia trending tab that telling the effects of Reddit posts (which from what I can tell, seem to be complaints about this article being featured on the Wikipedia app due to its viral popularity rather than canvassing per se) is going to be difficult. Hemiauchenia (talk) 13:09, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Redirect to Ampallang or Apadravya. Counterfeit Purses (talk) 15:39, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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