Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mainstream Muslims Vs. Al-Ahbash
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was No consensus. Deathphoenix ʕ 19:49, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Completely POV article that doesn't have capability to ever adhere to NPOV standards BhaiSaab talk 17:53, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. The problem is not the POV, per se. The problem is that all content is one or more of (1) original research, (2) taken from unreliable sources such as forum or Usenet posts, (3) cut-n-paste copyvio from precisely those unreliable sources (e.g. from this site) and of course (4) a redundant POV fork of Al-Ahbash. Not worth sorting out this mess. Sandstein 18:07, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong delete per Sandstien. - Kookykman|(t)e 20:02, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong Keep If Ahmadis can be kept and NOT deleted then this should be kept too. McKhan
- Comment: That analogy doesn't make sense to me. If Ahmadi, an article on a sect of Islam that is deemed to be infidels by most Muslims, can be kept, then the analogy fits so that Al-Ahbash can stay - not Mainstream Muslims Vs. Al-Ahbash. BhaiSaab talk 20:54, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong Keep Valuable infromation for a researcher. It needs more work to have better sources, but that does not mean to delete it. I may suggest to rename to Sunni Muslims Vs. Ahbash --Islamic 01:05, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong Keep This page is very critical as it highlights and compare the Al-Ahbash doctrines with Sunni Muslims', concisely. I second Islamic's suggestion in renaming the page to Sunni Muslims Vs. Al-Ahbash. - AmandaParker
- Comment: Why can't we do that on the Al-Ahbash page? BhaiSaab talk 17:17, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Reply to the above comment: I agree. Merging could be a better idea. --Islamic 23:42, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't agree with merging. This article is original research. BhaiSaab talk 20:13, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- If this page is going to be deleted then it should be merged. In other words, it should be kept as it highlights in a nutshell the difference between mainstream Muslims and the Al-Ahbash. And there are plenty of verifiable facts over the internet. All one needs is a little bit of research. McKhan
- Then you should cite them. BhaiSaab talk 01:37, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- All the sources which were used to complie that list (I didn't compile that list) are already LISTED under the reference section. Indeed, in your point-of-view, they are GENERIC and NON-VERIFIABLE coz you are determined to Sanitize and Islamacize the Al-Ahbash. McKhan
- Actually, a lot of it is just copied and pasted. Compare this website. That's copyright violation. BhaiSaab talk 03:05, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Go ahead and start imporving it. Aint' you the "editor" of Wikipeida? Don't you know how to work as a team? The table has been compiled through using lots of sources. McKhan
- I will not "improve" an article that's sole purpose is to disparage its subject. BhaiSaab talk 03:14, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- And I will make sure that the content of this article get re-posted again. You are determined to Sanitize and Islamacize the Al-Ahbash by using the Wikipedia Guidelines. I have seen your tactics so far. McKhan
- I'll ask politely for you to please stop making personal comments. BhaiSaab talk 03:18, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, you ganged-up on me. You are after most of my edits. You are archiving and editing as you please like my edits are your own blog. You don't even discuss them. You simply go ahead and edit them as per your own discretion. This is blatant harrassment. McKhan
- Please feel free to lodge a complaint against me or begin proceedings for an RfC [1]. BhaiSaab talk 03:25, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- They don't work. People have learned to get away with almost everything on Wikipedia. McKhan
- Of course they work. If you can convince them of your allegations, I'll probably get banned. Feel free to continue this discussion on my talk page. BhaiSaab talk 03:31, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- "What goes around, comes around." McKhan
- Of course they work. If you can convince them of your allegations, I'll probably get banned. Feel free to continue this discussion on my talk page. BhaiSaab talk 03:31, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- They don't work. People have learned to get away with almost everything on Wikipedia. McKhan
- Please feel free to lodge a complaint against me or begin proceedings for an RfC [1]. BhaiSaab talk 03:25, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, you ganged-up on me. You are after most of my edits. You are archiving and editing as you please like my edits are your own blog. You don't even discuss them. You simply go ahead and edit them as per your own discretion. This is blatant harrassment. McKhan
- I'll ask politely for you to please stop making personal comments. BhaiSaab talk 03:18, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- And I will make sure that the content of this article get re-posted again. You are determined to Sanitize and Islamacize the Al-Ahbash by using the Wikipedia Guidelines. I have seen your tactics so far. McKhan
- I will not "improve" an article that's sole purpose is to disparage its subject. BhaiSaab talk 03:14, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Go ahead and start imporving it. Aint' you the "editor" of Wikipeida? Don't you know how to work as a team? The table has been compiled through using lots of sources. McKhan
- Actually, a lot of it is just copied and pasted. Compare this website. That's copyright violation. BhaiSaab talk 03:05, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- All the sources which were used to complie that list (I didn't compile that list) are already LISTED under the reference section. Indeed, in your point-of-view, they are GENERIC and NON-VERIFIABLE coz you are determined to Sanitize and Islamacize the Al-Ahbash. McKhan
- Then you should cite them. BhaiSaab talk 01:37, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- If this page is going to be deleted then it should be merged. In other words, it should be kept as it highlights in a nutshell the difference between mainstream Muslims and the Al-Ahbash. And there are plenty of verifiable facts over the internet. All one needs is a little bit of research. McKhan
- I don't agree with merging. This article is original research. BhaiSaab talk 20:13, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Reply to the above comment: I agree. Merging could be a better idea. --Islamic 23:42, 17 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong Delete POV and original research. --Musicpvm 05:33, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.