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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 04:05, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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She's a non-notable MMA fighter. She's had 1 official fight and that was for an organization that's not even considered second tier (for men or women). She's not close to meeting WP:MMANOT.
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Papaursa (talk) 19:56, 8 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong Delete - per WP:BLP, WP:NOTABILITY, WP:NMMA and WP:MMANOT. --Sue Rangell ✍ ✉ 23:57, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep She has won a popular reality show in India, so under any notability criteria supporting reality show winners to be notable I vote keep. Also I will be bringing forward on WP:MMANOT about classing the Super Fight League for second tier status very soon if anyone is interested in joining the topic Pound4Pound (talk) 14:38, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete These are the same arguments you made at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kairo Isaac. Subject does not meet the notability criteria as an MMA fighter (WP:MMANOT), WP:REALITYSTAR was a failed proposal, and the show she won was an MMA show. As I said at the other discussion winning Ultimate Fighter doesn't bestow notability, so how can winning a minor competition do it? Nothing changes if the SFL is classified as a second tier organization. Mdtemp (talk) 14:55, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- It is still a reality show, and she did win it, if it was sometime like Big Brother then no-one would dispute it, so what difference does make if it was a MMA reality show? The Ultimate Fighter is a notable reality show for MMA, as it airs on FX and has masses of viewers watching every season. The show was popular in India and because of this I believe that this debate should also be included in a reality show-related deletion discussion, so that a clearer view can be made. the same for Kario Isaac Maheo as well. If the Super Fight League does get to be a second tier promotion, then it adds strength to it, as even the nominator says it like fighting for a second tier promotion means something towards notability - "She's had 1 official fight and that was for an organization that's not even considered second tier (for men or women)." I will be bringing up the debate on WT:MMANOT right now so if anyone wants to join in, they can do so. Pound4Pound (talk) 21:33, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Also, even though it was a failed guideline proposal, it does state at the top of the WP:REALITYSTAR page, and I quote "This guideline is not Wikipedia policy; however, these criteria are considered a fair test of whether a Reality Television participant merits an article at Wikipedia." So because of this, to say that Kolekar is notable can be considered a fair view based on her TV success.
- Comment WP:REALITYSTAR was a failed proposal. Consensus was NOT TO USE IT. It may be "considered to be a fair test, etc., etc." but that consideration does not come from the consensus, or it would be policy. --Sue Rangell ✍ ✉ 20:12, 13 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - Fails WP:NMMA and WP:MMANOT. --LlamaAl (talk) 21:04, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - Fails both WP:NMMA and WP:MMANOT. Kevlar (talk) 03:09, 11 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:42, 14 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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