Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marcus Bains line

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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 06:20, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Marcus Bains line

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This appears to be something between a hoax and an inside joke. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 19:11, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Technology-related deletion discussions. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 19:11, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, although I don't think it's a hoax as such, I don't think it's a notable topic or even a particularly credible one. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:12, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral As the author, I now see it's a very specific term. However, I found more software the term is used in. Also, I asked Ali Rahimi for a further explanation IIVQ (talk) 21:16, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Now I'm REALLY curious as to who the heck Marcus Bains was. I just found a NASA powerpoint using the term, which I don't think works as a reference, but is definitely not something I was expecting: [1] PianoDan (talk) 17:28, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oh my god, this is the best rabbit hole ever. This page in German [2] documents an attempt by someone else to answer this question. The linked pages are both dead, but wayback machine has this: [3] If true, Marcus Bains was literally someone the author of a patch to Korganizer met in a pub while drunk, who explained his theory on displaying dates to the author. NONE of this makes the topic notable, but it sure does make it funny. PianoDan (talk) 17:37, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

And with that, my vote is Delete for lack of notability. PianoDan (talk) 17:37, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Found another reference, which more clearly supports "hoax" for the origin of the term, although it really does seem to have been adopted in a few places. [4]. PianoDan (talk) 17:42, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am starting to think maybe this could be kept in project space as an example of ... something, I'm not sure what. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 02:12, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I (original author or the article) reached out to Ali Rahimi on LinkedIn and he came with this response:

«hi. the line is quite real. it was invented by me and by tom minka, and then adopted by lots of different calendars. the second link says the line is a hoax, but i'm not quite getting the angle. every calendar has it now!»

I asked him about the year they invented the line, why they called it Marcus Bains line and whether he was a real or fictious person. IIVQ (talk) 21:11, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment IIVQ, while it's interesting to learn this stuff, none of the inquiries you are making are germane to whether this article belongs in Wikipedia. Rather, they constitute original research, which is expressly NOT a criterion for notability. Unless the line is documented in reliable secondary sources, it still doesn't belong here. PianoDan (talk) 17:06, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I realize this. I am just doing an ultimate attempt to make this article more relevant for wikipedia. However, Ali Rahmini can't provide me with more details as to how they came up with the name, as his implementation was over 20 years ago.IIVQ (talk) 21:52, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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