Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mariners radio network
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Delete. Wikipedia is not a directory. ChrisO 21:48, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Mariners radio network (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)
This article is just a collection of the radio networks that Mariners' games are broadcast on, nothing more. Just a list. --Ksy92003(talk) 15:12, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Reason for deletion: I want to add that, true this article is more than a list, but there isn't any true encyclopedic content aside from the list. The "Notable Moments" section, mostly the quote itself is questionable, as who is to say that quote is the most memorable in franchise history? Second, this article lacks the one thing that facilitates an article: any sort of history on the subject. There isn't any history anywhere in the article, which is the one primary criteria for an article. --Ksy92003(talk) 16:35, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The author speaks up: First, let me say that I haven't had time to do as much research on this topic as I would like. I would love to put together a history of the network, but am not sure where to start, other than perhaps writing Dave Niehaus to see if he has any suggestions on researching the network's history. Second, if you were a baseball fan in Seattle there would be no question that Edgar's double is the most notable moment in Mariners broadcast history. When the Kingdome was imploded, for instance, The Double was voted a runaway favorite for favorite Kingdome moment by the readers of the Seattle P-I. We don't have a lot of great moments to choose from -- any one of Ichiro's 200-hit seasons, Griffey's eight-game homer streak, Buhner or Rodriguez hitting for the cycle, Chris Bosio's no-hitter, Leny Randle blowing the ball across the foul line -- unlike say the Red Sox or Dodgers, so the choice is pretty clear, especially since The Double kept the Mariners in Seattle. Scriptwriter 03:26, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: All you have done in that last comment was give a list of good plays in Mariners history. But how does that even relate to the different radio stations that they have their games broadcast them all? --Ksy92003(talk) 04:10, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Reply: You asked a question: The "Notable Moments" section, mostly the quote itself is questionable, as who is to say that quote is the most memorable in franchise history? I answered your question and explained why it is in fact the most memorable, and who is to say so (the fans of the team, as surveyed by the local sports media). As for how they relate, all of the items I cited were broadcast via the Mariners Radio Network and relate to their broadcasters, and were not broadcast on TV. For instance all of the TV stations covering Game 5 of the Mariners-Yankees ALDS used the ESPN feed (including in the Seattle market, IIRC) and heard Tim McCarver call The Double. Niehaus' call was only heard on radio.
- That said, I am thinking maybe the best thing to do is to move this to the Seattle Mariners page -- at which time I'll take out the notable moments (and hopefully I can track down the names of the Spanish broadcast crew). Scriptwriter 05:57, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: All you have done in that last comment was give a list of good plays in Mariners history. But how does that even relate to the different radio stations that they have their games broadcast them all? --Ksy92003(talk) 04:10, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The author speaks up: First, let me say that I haven't had time to do as much research on this topic as I would like. I would love to put together a history of the network, but am not sure where to start, other than perhaps writing Dave Niehaus to see if he has any suggestions on researching the network's history. Second, if you were a baseball fan in Seattle there would be no question that Edgar's double is the most notable moment in Mariners broadcast history. When the Kingdome was imploded, for instance, The Double was voted a runaway favorite for favorite Kingdome moment by the readers of the Seattle P-I. We don't have a lot of great moments to choose from -- any one of Ichiro's 200-hit seasons, Griffey's eight-game homer streak, Buhner or Rodriguez hitting for the cycle, Chris Bosio's no-hitter, Leny Randle blowing the ball across the foul line -- unlike say the Red Sox or Dodgers, so the choice is pretty clear, especially since The Double kept the Mariners in Seattle. Scriptwriter 03:26, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- weak keep: it's hardly just a list, but I'm not sure it's encyclopedic.--SarekOfVulcan 16:13, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Do we have an article for the Red Sox radio network or the Yankees radio network? I think this fails WP:NOT#DIR. Shalom Hello 21:06, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I think there should be articles, or at least sections in the relevant teams' pages, for every team's braodcast network. It's the sort of thing people turn to encyclopedias for. Scriptwriter 03:26, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge with Seattle Mariners. Piperdown 01:18, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I think this might be the best solution until I can put together a more "encyclopedic" article. Scriptwriter 03:26, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: I have gone ahead and merged the station table in with the main article on the Mariners. That should put an end to any controversy. Please go ahead and delete "Mariners Radio Network" and the references to it on the Radio Networks In The USA and Seattle Mariners 2007 season pages. Thank you. Scriptwriter 06:36, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Washington-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 16:17, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 16:20, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.