Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Merritt Lamb

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The result was no consensus. JGHowes ^talk 01:20, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Merritt Lamb

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Fails WP:GNG. The claims that he was the "founder of Scouting in West Michigan" and "the 13th Eagle Scout" in the U.S. are both unsourced. Lettler^{hello • contribs} 22:24, 12 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Lettler^{hello • contribs} 22:24, 12 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Lettler^{hello • contribs} 22:24, 12 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Michigan-related deletion discussions. Lettler^{hello • contribs} 22:24, 12 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete lacks SIGCOV in multiple RS to meet WP:GNG or any other notability criteria. Mztourist (talk) 07:34, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep just added a number of sources. It should now meet WP:GNG. There are more out there, and the article needs copyediting, but it should be kept. --evrik ^(talk) 04:50, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep IMO twice over, meeting both GNG and SNG. And this is not dependent on the two facts described in the nomination. North8000 (talk) 15:46, 18 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:57, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Delete Not seeing much aside from local newspaper articles attesting to notability. I also did some cleanup on the article, including adding sources for the military career section, but remain unconvinced he has notability beyond West Michigan. Intothat darkness 15:56, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ashley yoursmile! 05:41, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The flaws in the article were addressed. The initial consensus was to keep. It is unnecessary to relist it twice. 19:29, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

"Boy Scouts To Get Their Vacation Near Home". El Paso Herald. El Paso, Texas. 1923-05-05. p. 4.
"Merritt Lamb". El Paso Herald. El Paso, Texas. 1922-08-28. p. 2.
"Merritt". Battle Creek Enquirer. Battle Creek, Michigan. 1924-12-09. p. 18.
"L'Anse Boy Scout Movement Started". The L'Anse Sentinel. L'Anse, Michigan. 1917-06-30. p. 1.
"Merritt Lamb". Minden City Herald. Minden City, Michigan. 1919-06-27. p. 3.

Comment Disagree. There are still concerns about GNG in my view. The individual MIGHT be locally notable, but I don't think he's more than that. Intothatdarkness 21:07, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- CommentGNG is about sourcing and does not require establishing outside-world famous-ness/notability. The SNG criteria provide an alternate "way in" and so per the guideline, the topic needs to satisfy only one of the two. Per my comment above, IMO it satisfies both, but, most relevant in this post is that meeting the sourcing criteria (GNG) alone is sufficient.North8000 (talk) 20:02, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: AFD has been open for almost a month with no consensus
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Lettler^{hello • contribs} 16:25, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I added more sources:

"Boy Scout Camp to be Named for Lamb". El Paso Times. El Paso, Texas. 1922-08-30. p. 5.
"Organizer of El Paso Scouts Dead". El Paso Herald. El Paso, Tex. 1918-10-11.

--evrik ^(talk) 19:45, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Responding to note above, per the guideline, the finding here is to see if there is a consensus to delete. If there is no consensus to delete (or consensus for another such action) the result is the status quo which is keep. North8000 (talk) 20:11, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. There is clearly no consensus to delete. I gave up being an admin. If I was still an admin, I would just have closed this as 'Keep'. Could some admin end this long time discussion. --Bduke (talk) 00:29, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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