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The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:11, 13 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Don't know - it's clearly a real thing, even if poorly sourced. Pinkbeast (talk) 14:14, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment It has some sources which appear to be genuine news sources in the Dominican Republic, though I'm not sure if the TV show or contest is more notable. Are there doubts over the reliability of Dichtbij, Ciudad Oriental and Super Noticias? WP:BIAS may be relevant. --Colapeninsula (talk) 11:27, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, I do doubt the reliability of Dichtbij. Mostly because it the internet version of a local community paper and not a newspaper. But the article also makes clear (yes, I can read Dutch) that the Miss Multivers is all about "Women Empowerment Foundation" to support a orphanage in the Dominican Republic. The article about Women Empowerment Foundation is already removed as unambiguous advertising. Ow, and most misses of important pageants make headlines for themselves. But Yolanda Koelhoph (winner 2010) has just two hits on Google, both related to this article]. Linda Gausachs (winner 2009) has more hits, but that is not so strange as het full name is Linda Gausachs Grandia. According to Linkedin CEO & Owner Miss Multiverse - TV program Miss Multiverse - President Dominican Dutch Chamber of Commerce. And what a coincidence that the article is written by a relative new editor named Gausachs, who is prodominantly writing about, yes, Miss Multiverse. So the first winner (any proof of that?), the owner of the pageant, the president of the organising Chamber of Commerce and the writer of this article are all the same person. The Banner talk 17:34, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Ow, and Gausachs is, as Sales and Marketing specialist, also the founder of Women Empowerment Foundation, CEO Latin American Art Museum Amersfoort (LAKMA), CEO & Founder G&G Exchange - pageants.nl. See her linkedin profile. The Banner talk 17:46, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, I do doubt the reliability of Dichtbij. Mostly because it the internet version of a local community paper and not a newspaper. But the article also makes clear (yes, I can read Dutch) that the Miss Multivers is all about "Women Empowerment Foundation" to support a orphanage in the Dominican Republic. The article about Women Empowerment Foundation is already removed as unambiguous advertising. Ow, and most misses of important pageants make headlines for themselves. But Yolanda Koelhoph (winner 2010) has just two hits on Google, both related to this article]. Linda Gausachs (winner 2009) has more hits, but that is not so strange as het full name is Linda Gausachs Grandia. According to Linkedin CEO & Owner Miss Multiverse - TV program Miss Multiverse - President Dominican Dutch Chamber of Commerce. And what a coincidence that the article is written by a relative new editor named Gausachs, who is prodominantly writing about, yes, Miss Multiverse. So the first winner (any proof of that?), the owner of the pageant, the president of the organising Chamber of Commerce and the writer of this article are all the same person. The Banner talk 17:34, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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THIS IS A FULLY RELIABLE SOURCE Listin Diario - number 1 news paper of Dominican Republic http://www.listindiario.com.do/la-vida/2013/8/30/290300/Concurso-de-belleza-para-todas — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.33.96.75 (talk) 15:22, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Mrs Gausachs a.k.a. Grandia tells about her beauty contest. In fact, not a reliable source. It is not a third party writing about the beauty contest but plain promo. The Banner talk 16:29, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - sorry, I usually try to avoid the beauty contest ones, but this has been trundling along a while now. I don't see any evidence of notability. What The Banner has pointed out about the conflicts of interest is also cause for concern. So, sorry - delete. Mabalu (talk) 12:33, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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